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Loudoun County Board of Supervisors, Business Meeting, Wednesday, February 18, 2026

Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2026
Place: Board Room, First Floor, Government Center, 1 Harrison Street SE, Leesburg, Virginia
Length: 3h 52m (video)
Official meeting video (county, Granicus): https://loudoun.granicus.com/player/clip/8120
Meeting page (Granicus): https://loudoun.granicus.com/player/clip/8120

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[00:10:28] Thank you. Got it. Well, good evening, supervisors. Good evening, staff, and good evening, Loudoun. I'd like to call the February 18th, 2016 Loudoun County Board of Supervisors business meeting to order. This room has a hearing loop. If you need a hearing assistance, please switch your hearing aid to the telecom mode. If you need a headset, we have those available as well. This evening, Mr. Kirshner is going to lead us in a prayer or words of inspiration and the Pledge of Allegiance.

[00:10:53] thank you madam chair let's pray um god we just thank you for the opportunity to serve this county and we we do appreciate our positions but we also know that we answer to the folks and i pray that you will help us to make wise decisions in each and every meeting that we have both tonight and going forward for the remainder of our terms we thank you for our constituents we pray for protection over them and we um we pray that uh our although debate sometimes can be intense we pray it will be congealed and that we will be uh we will be advocates for what we

[00:11:26] believe is right and we pray this in your name amen amen okay i got got all kind of stuff going on up here because all kind of stuff has happened in the past hour or so so let me start with this we have we are deferring item nine the response to the board member initiative sterling boulevard

[00:12:04] service road improvement. It has been deferred to a future board meeting. The staff will talk to Mr. Sainz and decide what meeting they want to bring that back to. Item number eight, LEGIE 2024-0037, Cochrane Tech ZMAP 2024-0012, Special Exception 2025-0025, Special Exception 2025-0029, special exception 2025-0034, special exception 2025-0054, and special exception 2025-0111 has been deferred to a future business meeting for action.

[00:12:42] I will say it is my habit to, if I get a request from the applicant to defer an item, I would do that one time almost automatically. This is the second request from Concord Mill to defer that, and so when it's the second request, I do ask for and require a little more reason of why they want to defer it, and so I have talked to them today, and they actually said that it's not for vote counting.

[00:13:06] They are literally working on the item and trying to do some things that have been requested by some of my colleagues, and so as they are going to continue to work on the item and because they are working on the item, I would do this, I would give it one more deferral, but this will be the last one for Cochrane Tech.

[00:13:23] Now I will read the proposed consent agenda, and it is as follows. Madam Chair, before we start the consent agenda, you indicated to a future meeting. Is there a date we could put in? It doesn't. I haven't talked to them, and so I need to talk to them before, because I don't want them to have to defer it a third time.

[00:13:41] So they did not give me an idea of when that would be. I do not believe it will be sometime in March. I just don't know which meeting in March it would be. Can I suggest we do it until March 17th, the second meeting in March, and if it's done at that time, we wouldn't have to go back and redo all the notices?

[00:13:59] It could be as earlier than that, though. It could be the first meeting in March. So that's why I'm saying I don't know which meeting in March it will be, but if I say the 17th, they may want to go to the first meeting. My thought is the public is charged with following the meeting, and if we say to a future board meeting, we will need to notify the public of when this is going.

[00:14:19] Oh, I understand what you're saying. My suggestion would be the 17th. Yeah, I don't. Let me do this. Let me leave it like this right now. We take a break. I'll call them, and they can tell me which meeting in March they might want to go to, and then I will announce that, okay?

[00:14:35] Because if they want to go earlier, I want them to go earlier. So, okay? All right. Proposed consent agenda is as follows. It's a pretty long one, everyone, so just kind of buckle down. Item R1, resolution to recognize Asbury Lloyd is for approval and presentation.

[00:14:54] Item R2, resolution to recognize recipients of the 2026 award for best workplace for commuters. That's the second year we're doing that. That's for approval only. I will be going to a location to present that. You are welcome to come with me.

[00:15:10] Item 1A, award authority increased task order, contracts for traffic calming, other related safety improvements, and cleanup. Item 1B, contract award information technology, hardware, software, and maintenance support service. Item 1C, contract award for FY2026, capital improvement program amendments, construction of the Route 7, Route 690, Hillsboro Road Interchange.

[00:15:33] Item 1D, proposed human resources policy handbook revisions to Chapter 1, general principles, and Chapter 9, non-disciplinary standards, I'm sorry, separations. Item 1E, 2025 Family Services Advisory Board and Report and Bylaws Revisions.

[00:15:50] Item 1F, Revised Community Criminal Justice Board Bylaws. I have not read those yet. Item 1G, Loudoun County Community Service Board Bylaw Revisions. I have read those. Item 1H, Community Development Block Grant Funding Recommendations.

[00:16:06] Item 1I, Attainable Housing Loan Program Applications for Clear Springs Apartments, Phase 1 and 2. Item 1J, Attainable Housing Loan Program Applications for Dogwood Farm Station Apartments. Item 1K, Attainable Housing Loan Program Application for Dallas Plaza Apartments.

[00:16:26] Item 2A, Heritage Commission 2025 Annual Report. Item 2B, Heritage Commission by Laws Amendments 2025. Item 2C, Heritage Historic District Review Committee 2025 Annual Report. Item 2D, Historic District Review Committee Bylaws Amendments 2025.

[00:16:45] Item 2E, Project Plan for CPAM 2025-0002-2026, Review of the Loudoun County 2019 Countywide Transportation Plan. Item 3A, Appointments and Confirmations. Item 4, Administrative Items Reports for February 18, 2026.

[00:17:01] Item 5, Ratification of the Tentative Agreement for Voluntary Early Detention Cancer Screenings between the International Association of Firefighters, Local 3756, and Loudoun County, Virginia. That is the consent agenda.

[00:17:17] I will make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Is there a second on my motion? Second. Seconded by Vice Chair Turner, discussion on the motion. All I will say is, supervisors, I say this all the time, we have amazing volunteers who sit and staff our commissions, committees, and boards when they do these either reports or bylaw changes.

[00:17:37] Sometimes there are not many changes. Sometimes they can be pretty substantial. So please, please go read all those reports that I have found that they have been very, very helpful. They've even kind of in the past crafted how I will vote an issue or how I want to craft a motion. So if you've not done that, please do that.

[00:17:56] Anybody else speak on the motion? Ms. Bricksman. Thank you, Madam Chair. I know that we fly through these things sometimes, but I think it's worth celebrating some of the items that were on Finance Committee that relate to the attainable housing loan program. program. We are approving tonight $26.8 million for 378 attainable units. The housing fund was approximately at $39 million. It will be about $12 million at the end of this. Dogwood Farm Station has eight units that will be reserved for households earning no greater

[00:18:30] than 30%, 28 units for households no greater than 50%. That's area median income. And then 36 units reserved for households earning no greater than 60 percent of the area median income. That development will remain attainable and affordable for 75 years.

[00:18:47] The Dulles Plaza application has 11 units reserved for households earning no greater than 30 percent AMI, 28 reserved for those earning no greater than 50 percent AMI, and the remaining 244 will be reserved for households earning no greater than 60 percent area median income.

[00:19:04] Those will be affordable for 50 years. And then the Clear Springs is coming through and being approved tonight. 19 units are reserved for those making 30% area median income, 142 units will be reserved for households earning no more than 60% AMI and 19 units for households earning no greater than 70% AMI.

[00:19:26] That will be affordable by contract for 40 years. So I really think that, you know, as we watch some of the things that are going on in the the General Assembly right now, that we should definitely make note of all the work that we're doing in Loudoun County to make sure that our firefighters and our teachers and our waitstaff can live in the county where they serve. It's really important work. Also, the note is these are loans. So it's not money that the county's just giving away, but they are loans. And once they're repaid, they will go right back into the system to help more people. Thank you, Madam Chair.

[00:20:03] Thank you. Mr. Turner. Thank you, Madam Chair. I just would like to, for the board's thought process, I actually came up with the schedule for affordable housing, attainable housing five years ago when we wrote the plan.

[00:20:20] And I remember the pushback I got from the staff that worked so hard on that great plan was that if we have a table of goals, that it will bind us to that. And we don't know if we can achieve those goals. We don't know if those goals are realistic. I think we have a phenomenal housing program, and our efforts at attainable housing is second to none.

[00:20:41] And it's been – we're now five years into it, and it bothers me that we're always falling short of our goal by a substantial amount. according to a chart that was pretty arbitrary in the way it was developed because i developed i remember the night i did it and it it is it's good it has focused us it has moved us in the direction of what are we trying to accomplish and how do we achieve our goal but i think now we might be at a point where let's reassess that goal table and see is this a realistic goal can we do more should we do less let's so that we're not constantly falling short of that goal because i think that is a that

[00:21:16] leads to a misperception of the Loudoun County housing program. Just food for thought. Thank you. So Ms. Bickman, I really do appreciate you going through those numbers and taking time to do that. In 2016 when I came to the board, it was about a million dollars we were giving to our housing trust funds. Today it's about 29 million dollars a year. And so I don't know who is or who is not watching Loudoun, but I think Loudoun is an example for the commonwealth of what we should should be doing for attainable housing, and we're proud to be doing for attainable housing, including closing costs and down payment programs, so it's not just for attainable housing for

[00:21:52] rent, but we want people to be able to be homeowners, and so because homeownership creates generational wealth, and we know that, and so we are doing and approving every day, every day, every week almost, new attainable housing units at the full AMI, which is the point that you just made, Ms. Brixman, that when we talk about affordable, it's really a certain AMI. It's about 35% to about 85%. But when you say attainable, you go from zero all the way to 100% of the AMI. And then you include disability housing, you include veterans housing,

[00:22:29] you include senior housing. So it's all of it. And we are doing massive work in that. And I would say the staff has done a great job. But we've also had partners that come along the way. We've had, you know, Michael Capretti and Kim Hart and just so many people who have come, John Peterson, who could have done a data center in a location in Broad Run District, but instead of doing a data center, did housing and made it attainable housing. So we have had, we have had partners come alongside with us to say we want to see this housing. And we recognize that. We appreciate that very much. And I want us to just keep doing it because everyone deserves a place to lay their head and call home.

[00:23:07] So that is the consent agenda. All the people say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 801. I'm sure Mr. Sainz will be on the dais very soon. Supervisors, before you walk off the dais, we're going to very quickly do -- we have an item that was on consent that was pulled off consent only because two people want to vote against it, but we don't need a whole lot of presentation or questions.

[00:23:34] They just want to vote against it, and so instead of making this be a whole big item, I just said, pull off consent for this so my two colleagues can go on and vote against it. So I don't even think there's questions, but just in case, it is legy item number 2024-0031, the auto world substation, and special exception.

[00:23:56] Now, that is in whose district? Whose district is that? That's Sterling, right? That's a Sterling district who has not talked to me about this, And I don't believe he has an issue with it that he has told me. But Mr. Crony and Ms. Bricksman wanted this item off consent.

[00:24:13] So what I'm going to do right now is keep talking to blow off time, but then find the item and make a motion. And then actually it's 7, but thank you for your help, Mr. Kirshner. Thank you so much.

[00:24:32] And I'm going to move the motion. I move the Board of Supervisors to approve LEGIE 2024-0031, Auto World Substation ZMAP 2024-0010, Special Exception 2024-0040, and Special Exception 2025-00, I'm sorry, 0-1-1-2, subject to the proffer statement dated October 21st, 2025, and the conditions of the approval dated January 20th, 2026, and based on the fines for approval, provided an attachment 1 and 2 and 3 to the February 18th, 2026, Board Supervisor's business meeting action item. Motion made and seconded by Supervisor Kirchner.

[00:25:07] I have no discussion on the motion. Again, I pulled this off because of the consent agenda, so two of my colleagues could vote against it if they wanted to. Do you have discussion on the motion, Mr. Crony? I just have a question, and then I'm going to make a comment, if that's okay. You can do that. So how close is this substation to the W&OD trail? Approximately 30 feet, if not less. Okay, thank you. So I'm voting against this because I want to make the observation that there seem to be quite a few substations along the W&OD trail.

[00:25:39] I am concerned our treasured Linear Park is becoming a utility corridor for substations. It already has a high-voltage transmission line in the railroad easement. While I understand this is not near residential, it is adjacent to a golf course and a park that a lot of people use, so I will not be supporting it tonight.

[00:26:03] I believe we need to protect our parks and open space from industrial development. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Crony, I'm sorry, Mr. Littorno. Supervisor Crony's question just popped the one for me. I just wanted to confirm that there is 12-foot screening around the substation, correct?

[00:26:25] That's correct. Okay. Ms. Briggsman. I'm sorry. I ride that section of the WNOD almost every week in decent weather, and that corridor, Mr. Crony is absolutely right, that corridor is really less and less pleasant every year.

[00:26:49] And I don't care if there is a 12-foot fencing around it, you're going to be able to see it, you're going to be able to hear it, and right across from it is data centers that are also not very conducive to a park. So that's one of the main reasons I'm also voting against this.

[00:27:05] Thank you. Well, now that we have it up here and we have you all up here, do you have a picture? Do you have a picture you can see so I can see where we're? Just a moment, please.

[00:27:24] I want everyone to see it, though. Yeah, take your time. For clarity, the screen while proposed would look like this.

[00:27:44] And the trail as of this summer when the trees were alive looked like this. All right. So let me go back to Mr. Crony and Ms. Brinkman's question. So will the screening cover the substation? Or is the substation higher than the screening?

[00:28:07] The circumstances are a bit unique in this buffer area. What I mean by that is the buffer that is required is 15 feet wide. And the number of plantings they put in between would be up to the applicant to do to meet the zoning ordinance requirement. In order to install the substation, staff understands that they have to do some grading and flatten out the area. And there'll be a retaining wall that's also built within the buffer area that varies between, I believe it was four to six feet. So you'll have that retaining wall in addition to the 12 foot tall wall and it'll screen the majority of the equipment itself. We can't speak for the poles and where they're

[00:28:44] connecting to. What kind of noise will it make? Will there be any noise that comes out of the substation? I would have to defer to the applicant. Okay. And you said it's about 30 feet off the WDWD trail? Approximately. Approximately 30 feet off of WDWD trail. And we already know what data and is it serving?

[00:29:01] Not necessarily. Okay. Paragon Park Data Center Complex is right across the trail. Okay. So whether it was going to connect to those or serve them in any way or it would connect to the 500-kilowatt transmission lines.

[00:29:17] All right. Thank you very much. Madam Chair, just a point of clarification. We approved a bunch of data centers right there by that golf course. That is not a point of clarification. But they're probably serving those. That's not a point of clarification, Ms. Briggsman. You guys can't ask for a point of clarification to get another turn.

[00:29:36] Point of clarification is a question on the Robert's Rules, that's a point of clarification. But, thank you. Well, you know, this was helpful, Mr. Crony and Ms. Bricksman.

[00:29:53] This was helpful. I appreciate that effort and why you just did that. That was really helpful. All right, on behalf of Mr. Sains, I made the motion, and it was seconded by Mr. Kirshner. All people say aye. Opposed? Nay.

[00:30:08] I'm going to be a nay on that, too. So I think that was a 5-3-1 vote with Supervisor Tacroni, Supervisor Brixman, Chair, around the voting against it, Mr. Sains being off the dais. Thank you very much. All right, we're going to go back to regular agenda, everybody, now that we've taken care of that. Let's see.

[00:30:26] I do have quite a few organizational regional updates, and so let me just try to get the to get through these as fast as I can before we get to the Voice for a Cause. On February 4th, I did the Health Steering Committee of the National Association of Counties. Of course, the NACO Ledge Conference will be -- we will start that on Friday through next Tuesday for all that are going to the NACO Ledge Conference.

[00:30:52] We did decide, and I think I've already told you what Health Steering Committee is going to focus on this year and so we will be down there doing that work. On the last week I and several others traveled down to Richmond for the General Assembly, Loudoun Day at the General Assembly for our items.

[00:31:13] I will say that I've said this already, we're not having a great year at the General Assembly. The legislation that pulls local control and local zoning is going through right now.

[00:31:29] We will talk to Mr. Freeman in a little while to see where that legislation is at right now. But overall, we're having a tough time. I will say one of our bright spots in the General Assembly is Oak Hill.

[00:31:48] John McAuliffe and Ms. Perry left the house. Shomakov did a phenomenal job talking to his colleagues about Oak Hill. And so that has made it out and has crossed over. It's at the Senate. We're just going to keep our fingers crossed about Oak Hill and see how that goes.

[00:32:05] On February 9th, I did meet with Digital Realty. It was just a lunch meeting just to kind of do a – really, we had no items. There was no items on the agenda as a catch-up. But because it's one of our larger data centers, I thought I would report that out. On March 11th, at COG, and Mr. Letourneau, I know you know this person well, Dr. Tracy Hatton-Lew from the Brookings Institute did a presentation for us about the economy of Northern Virginia.

[00:32:35] It was concerning. I did ask Dr. Hatton-Lew, would she be willing to come? And I will talk to you, Ms. Bricksman, about maybe a time for her to come to finance, if you'd like that. I would like that. I would appreciate that. have her present. What she basically said is in this area, quite a few people took the quote buyout or the fork in the road or whatever it was called. And so some of the economy that has not looked like it was affected in this area before this, now that that time has passed, that fork in the road, those buyouts are over, we're starting to see the impacts

[00:33:13] of that and we're starting to see the impacts of Doge because those that not hit the employment numbers but until now interestingly enough and probably maybe obviously the closer you are to DC the higher the unemployment numbers the unemployment has increased in DC by 1.9% it has increased in Arlington and Alexandria by 1.3% it's increased 0.9% in Fairfax and 0.4% allowed in so again the further the closer you are to DC and that includes the Maryland side as well the higher those unemployment numbers are, and I think that's to be expected. In the United States,

[00:33:50] the unemployment rate has increased 4%, and so we in Loudoun have always done better in unemployment rate than the rest of the country, and right now we're running right with them. In addition, housing sales in the area have also gone up, and again, the closer you are to D.C., the faster those houses are being sold. And so the numbers overall were concerning, And when she did the presentation, her PowerPoint stack was not ready for release from Brookings, but now it is, and so I will ask her to come give it to finance.

[00:34:29] And if other people want to come see it, I'm happy to schedule for a full board meeting, but I do think it's something we should watch. I did call Mr. Reiser yesterday about these numbers. He said he'd like to see the numbers as well and just talk about things and talk these through a little bit.

[00:34:49] So just so you know, as the fork in the road and the payoffs and all the doge and money is now over, we are definitely seeing the effects of those. We're also seeing the effects on our international airports and in our tourism industry as well.

[00:35:07] And again, not so much with Washington Reagan because that's a national airport, But with Dulles and other international airports, we're seeing those numbers as well. So some pretty concerning stuff, actually. On the 12th, Thursday the 12th, I went to Leadership Greater Washington.

[00:35:23] It was Human Needs Day. It was held at the headquarters of the American Red Cross, which is, by the way, a beautiful campus. It's like three buildings in this big square. I've never been in there. It's absolutely gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous. So, there were some pretty interesting numbers that lend themselves to the equity discussion, especially equity in health.

[00:35:47] And so, if anyone would like to see those numbers, most notable to me was the, I should actually call it the inequity in health when it comes to, and we've known this all along, when it comes to maternal health for women in color and black women compared to our white counterparts. They were pretty stark numbers just overall, and I'm happy to send those to anyone who'd like to see it. And then finally, as I said, this weekend, many of us are working our way down to NACO. Ms. Brickspin, I will probably be late to finance because Tuesday I will be going to the Hill to

[00:36:25] talk to all of our federal delegation, so I'll be doing that. I'm going to beg Mr. Kirshner one more time, the RAC committee, Mr. Kirshner, with which, I think Mr. Crony, you're going to RAC, right? One of the issues, surprise, surprise, Mr. Kirshner, they're discussing this water, and water in rural areas and how hard it is, especially, obviously, in the Colorado River Basin, like those water numbers are really, really stark and bad,

[00:36:58] And so RAC is doing a lot of discussion on water, LUC, which Mr. Sainz goes to LUC usually is doing a discussion on attainable housing. So all the things we do here, we see these things magnified when we go to NACO.

[00:37:16] So Mr. Crony is going to go to RAC to the Rural Action Caucus, Mr. Sainz is going to go to LUC, and I don't know who else is going to either one of those things. And I will be going because I am vice chair of the mid-sized county caucus. And so I'll be going there.

[00:37:31] We're focused much more on mental health, some education issues, some of those issues. But we're all going to be doing that. And so I'm assuming next time we all get in the days, we will tell how things went at NACO. All right. So my voice for a cause today is something I'm really, really excited about.

[00:37:51] And thank you, Monica, for giving me my voice for a cause today. My voice for a call today is Station Stitchers. It is a nonprofit with the mission of providing high-quality quilts to local organizations serving people in need. They partner with local hospitals, shelters, care centers, and community organizations to ensure their quilts reach those who need them most.

[00:38:13] Since their founding, their volunteers have handcrafted and donated more than 5,000 quilts to neighbors in need throughout Loudoun County. Ms. Henrich, you are the president right now. You're here with us today. You did bring a quilt with you. I'd love for the people on camera to see your quilt.

[00:38:31] So we're going to grab that. And while you're grabbing that really beautiful quilt, I'm going to ask you, how did station stitchers begin and where did the, that is so pretty, and where did the, isn't that pretty? And where did the idea come from?

[00:38:47] Well, all of this was before my time. First, thank you for spotlighting us this month. So Station Stitchers began back in about 2010 when a group of like-minded ladies got together to sew at the Personville train station. They decided to donate quilts to the Leesburg Hospital, I guess it was Innova, and the quilts were used for oncology patients going through treatment in the peds wards and ICU.

[00:39:14] As time went on and the COVID lockdown hit, sewists needed an outlet and it became quilt tops and they found station stitchers the group grew and we had to move to a studio versus the train station we now have a long arm we have racks and racks of donated fabric all of our fabric is donated we have a hundred percent volunteer organization no paid employees so as time went on the quilts quilt and quilt tops grew as you see quilts are created with a quilt top a quilt back

[00:39:48] and batting it takes an awful lot to put this together we've got about 50 volunteers who have created over a thousand quilts last year alone for our different organizations so um with that one of the asks that we do have is that since we have no formal income other than grants and donations is that we get out there and work towards financial sustainability through things like give choose our website has ability to donate as well. So I said to Miss Henrich we're going to make an ask at the end of this and she goes yeah I go

[00:40:23] right into the ass. Front and back. Good for you. Talk about some of your community partners that you work with in Loudoun County not just who receives the quilts but who helps you get the material for the quilts. Well so the material for the quilts is donated by all sorts of people who are their mothers or grandmothers or just people who have too much stash and need to fit down their their their their fabric stash and so that's where the fabric comes from. Our partners that we donate to are primarily Inova Cares for Women.

[00:40:59] They serve the under underserved and underinsured women who are giving birth. They've asked for 40 quilts a month from us which is quite a few. We also serve of the Upside Down or Moments organization for foster kids that are in going into foster as well as those are for aging out. We do the Homeless Shelter, Ladded Homeless Shelter, Blue Ridge Hospice, the Blue Ridge Hospice Camp, the Inova Peds, as well as Tree of Life in the Gainesville Rehab and Nursing Center. We don't distribute our quilts directly, we go through these organizations who find recipients that have the most need.

[00:41:39] Wow thank you. And which which which recipient do you say does have the most need? With the ask that we have it's it's hard to say I mean we've been asked for 40 a month for a NOVA clinic for women. The peds ward is asked for 10 to 15 a month. Blue Ridge Hospice Camp has asked for 30 quilts a year for their camp and then all the others that we have been working with are asking for as many as possible. So what that tells me is that there is a great need for for love and comfort and that's what these quilts provide. Okay and and I'm going to go off the script that you were given for questions and I apologize because I

[00:42:18] don't understand how how that is made. So you can take any material if anyone donates any type of material and make that material into a quilt if you do if you do something with the materials. So we ask for quilters cotton because that way the material. Quilters cotton. Okay. 100% quilters cotton. Okay. And that's what we use and we use that for the tops and the backs. Okay. All right. Quilters cotton. Good. And where can people learn more about station stitchers and can you make that ask one more time? Absolutely. So we have a website now thanks to Deloitte. They we have a website called stationstitchers.org. You can find

[00:42:56] out about our mission who we donate to what you can do to volunteer what you can do volunteer time volunteer materials and and volunteer financial support we have an ability to donate directly from there as well as we're participating in give choose this year this is a way for to get our our name out there in the community because we really have a limited way of getting income besides donations we also do apply for grants but we have such unique and wonderful nonprofits in loudon county i love doing voice for a cause because we learn about so many and this is one of them and

[00:43:33] thank you uh like i say all the time i don't allow clapping very much in the in the board room but i do right now so thank you very much for what you do mr hemstreet do you have any comments this evening no thank you ma'am chair i've got four comments for this evening now the first is that virtual information sessions will be held this month for businesses and vendors interested in learning more about the county's procurement disparity study. As the board directed, the study will review contracting and procurement practices to ensure fair access and opportunities for all businesses, including small women-owned, minority-owned, and service-disabled veteran-owned

[00:44:12] businesses. All businesses in Loudon that may be potential vendors of the county are encouraged to attend. Details including dates and times of the sessions and a link to register may be found online at loudon.gov slash disparity study. Second, members of the community who are looking for attainable housing options are encouraged to attend the Northern Virginia Housing Expo on Saturday, March 7th at Fairfax High School. Representatives from Loudon's Department of Housing and Community Development will be participating in the Expo and will have information about the county's rental and home ownership assistance programs for individuals

[00:44:48] and families. More information about the Expo is online at loudon.gov slash housing. Third, the deadline to submit nominations for this year's Environmental Excellence Awards is March 2nd. The Environmental Commission's Awards program honors individuals, businesses, non-profit organizations, and educators in Loudon for their leadership on environmental issues. Detailed information, including a link to the nomination form, may be found at loudon.gov slash environmental awards. And then finally, beginning today, Loudoun County residents are seeing a new logo for the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Community Services. The new logo features a distinctive

[00:45:27] flourishing leaf, which reflects the department's dedication to creating interconnected spaces and experiences for people to thrive and grow. The updated design reflects the department's evolution as it has expanded its services to meet the growing needs of the community. More information about those services is online at laden.gov slash PRCS.

[00:45:46] Those are my comments this evening, Madam Chair. Thank you, Mr. Hemstreet. Very much appreciated. We're going to go ahead and do our ledge item tonight. We do have two motions on the table, one from me and Ms. Glass, and then one from Ms. Bricksman that will be part of the ledge item tonight.

[00:46:05] But first, let's do the ledge item. And Mr. Freeman, is Mr. Freeman on with us tonight? He is online. mr freeman can you hear us yes how are you sir i am i apologies if i sound a little raspy i'm a little under the weather i'm assuming it's because you've been running around there talking to legislators trying to whip them into shape get our get our get our policies passed right is that right as much as possible john you're so well good afternoon uh madam chair members of the

[00:46:38] board. We are officially post-crossover. Crossover was yesterday. And what we mean by crossover is, of course, that was the last day for each chamber to consider the bills that originated in their chamber. So from here, the House will consider Senate bills and the Senate will consider House bills that passed their chambers. I'll also note that Budget Sunday is this upcoming Sunday, February 22nd. Budget Sunday is the deadline for when our House and Senate budgets need to be

[00:47:13] completed, and those amendments will be available by noon on Tuesday, February 24th. Just to give a small overview of where our initiatives are now that we're post-crossover, again, our housing grants bills in the House and the Senate both passed their chambers, so they are now in the local government committees in the House and Senate. We don't expect a problem because the language mirrors each other. And so they've already passed these bills. So they should go on a certain docket that most folks call the rocket docket, if you will, since they've already passed

[00:47:51] those bills. For the Oak Hill bills, McAuliffe was able to get his HB 500 out of the House unanimously uh and unfortunately senator unanimously that's that's right uh unfortunately senator perry's bill was left in senate finance and so uh essentially what uh we expect is that this is a budget conversation from here on out uh and so we continue to lobby the conferees both in the house and the senate to ensure that uh we get into the house and senate budgets um the local

[00:48:30] Anti-Rent Gouging Authority. Just to remind you, that was sent to the Housing Commission, both the House and the Senate bills. For the authority to consider power bills, the Senate version was defeated last Thursday in Commerce and Labor. And so, the House bill was continued to 2027. I know there have been questions on what does that mean when a bill is continued to the preceding year. Essentially, that is a soft way of killing a bill.

[00:49:01] A commission could pick up the bill if they wanted to, but it's just a very soft way of killing a bill. Madam Chair, I'll stop there on the initiatives if there are any questions. No, I think we're good on these. You may keep going. So just to note some data center bills of note, there are two undergrounding of transmission line bills Perry and Srinivasan are carrying.

[00:49:29] Most notably, in Srinivasan's bill, it contains a mechanism by which the local governing body would be able to essentially assess an additional taxing authority, bonding, or general funds to pay for the lines.

[00:49:48] It's a 50-50 split in the bill, which is the floor, not the ceiling. The SEC did clarify in committee that the SEC could determine on their 50% of the cost that essentially their portion is zero and that 100% would be on the locality, which the locality could assess to GS5 rate class, meaning the high energy users, 25 megawatts or more.

[00:50:18] There are several mechanisms in the bill for a local governing body to pull out of the deal if the costs become too much. There's also a bill that Senator Lucas is carrying dealing with the aiding of electric costs for low-income elderly and disabled individuals. Essentially, in that bill, there was an amendment placed to assess a 15.8 percent tax levied by demand on the GS-5 rate class for the purposes of lowering electric costs for the individuals that I just

[00:50:58] named. That bill is out of the Senate. And I also want to note a bill that you all have seen to take 30 percent of new data center revenue generated by locality. That bill was defeated, So that bill will not be going forward.

[00:51:19] Also want to note, moving on to transit funding, because I know this has been a conversation as well. All of the transit funding bills have been defeated. So this is now a budget conversation. And so essentially what was in these transit funding bills was dedicated funding so that we did not have to keep coming back to the General Assembly to get general funds for things like costs to operations.

[00:51:46] for amada and so this is now a budget discussion uh and so we'll remain watchful to see what is in the house and senate uh budgets uh going forward uh madam chair i'll stop there if there are any questions um yeah we're going to take some questions right now we are miss miss um brixman thank you madam chair i apologize the first bill that you talked about with the

[00:52:19] rate class the five rate class can you walk me through that one again it so but so if i'll back up to november uh the sec essentially in the dominion uh case that was before them uh created a new separate customer class known as the gs5 rate class the gs5 rate class is users is 25 megawatts or more. And so basically, in the undergrounding of transmission line bills that passed, the Senate is a mechanism by which you all would be able to assess an additional taxing

[00:52:59] authority to allocate the costs to GS5 rate class users. So let me see if I understand this. So then we could levy an additional tax that's not the personal property tax we could levy an additional tax on large utility users to help pay for undergrounding is that the idea it's a separate

[00:53:30] tax class so the and i'll pass it to the county attorney if he wishes to apply okay but essentially the gs5 rate class is a separate customer class okay and in this bill you all would have additional taxing authority okay to ensure that those costs are passed on to that yeah okay so but but what what is left out of that is the idea that dominion can still refuse to bury the power lines right

[00:54:03] like it to me it doesn't matter how much how many funds we generate if dominion says they don't want to bury the power lines? Maybe Mr. Rogers can answer that question. Sure. Part of the legislation as the SEC needs to make the determination that undergrounding is feasible, and then they take a look at the cost in doing so, then they can split the cost, as Mr. Freeman mentioned, up to 50% would be Dominion's obligation, and then the remainder would be the local obligation. So this

[00:54:35] is the JJ Singh bill yes okay okay okay I have some feelings about that but I'll just say that that passes the buck in my mind and if our constituents learn that we can levy another tax it's going to fill our boardroom to try and get us to raise the money to bury the power lines when we can't make Dominion or SEC do either but thank you I think I saw Mr. Kirshner's next

[00:55:09] Yeah, my questions were along the lines of the barrier of the power line legislation, which was just discussed in reference to, and Mr. Rogers was finishing up on the legislation and the discussion of it. My understanding is if there was a decision by both the locality can't force the bearing of it, along Supervisor Brissman's question, correct?

[00:55:30] But if it was agreed to between Dominion and locality, they could split the cost, and then the utility demanding the electricity could be taxed to help recoup the cost. Is that correct? Utility tax, that's correct. Okay.

[00:55:46] Interesting. Okay. Yeah, she had asked most of the questions I had, but that was the follow-up question I had. Go ahead. I'm sorry. The only point I had left is this is a local option as well. I mean, a locality has to decide that they want to do this. So it's locality has to decide they want to do it, and the SEC has to authorize it.

[00:56:05] And I know I don't have the technical people here, but how much extra does it normally cost to bury the power lines versus, maybe that's Mr. Hemstreet through the chair, Madam Chair? Sure, that's fine. Or maybe Mr. Rogers? Having done several of these, I will say it's in the hundreds of millions of dollars to bury a power line.

[00:56:23] I understand that, but is it a 10x factor or a 5x factor? You're talking about, it really depends. I mean, it depends so much on topography. It depends on the soils. I'll give you, for instance, in the Mars to Golden, the Aspen to Golden line, that three-mile stretch was going to cost $400 million, but we were also running into granite.

[00:56:47] I see. Yeah, so that was far more expensive because of this. Fair enough. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Croney. Thank you, Chair Randall. So Oak Hill is now—so it didn't get past the Senate. In other words, it went into the budget deliberations.

[00:57:03] So it got—John's—the House site got passed. No, I know. But at the Senate level, it did not, correct, John? That's correct. It was left in Senate Finance. I want to note that Oak Hill has not received a negative vote.

[00:57:19] It was just left in Senate Finance and not docketed for a Senate Finance meeting. So it's a budget discussion, and we think that, you know, that we're having some good conversations regarding that effort.

[00:57:35] Okay. Yeah, because we're not asking for any money, so I'm curious why it was in budget, but okay. So I had a discussion with Senator Sri Avas, and he mentioned to me that we didn't need local authority to consider the electric grid caused by high energy users. He felt we already had the authority, and that's why his bill did not pass. He said that Bill HSB-130

[00:58:10] could help us as well as far as the land use considerations of additional electrical infrastructure but he felt that overall dominion and um the state believes we already have the authority dominion believes that yes um maybe you can um answer that question leo that probably came about through can i ask a question yes you can thank you chairman he had his light on that probably came from a comment that another senator made uh that we had the authority and that we were

[00:58:46] supplanting the role of the state corporation commission that is not correct with regard to the board's authority i have identified that in rezoning cases the board can address the impacts of bringing power so that might be what ancillary impacts would be caused by bringing power to the site but that's not taking power into consideration okay thank you and then s sb 130 does that help us at all um john do you know that that one i believe passed correct or not sb-130 sb-94

[00:59:25] passed that's danica rum's bill well going back to sb-130 that that's one of the siting assessment bills uh dealing with data centers um sb-94 is a siting assessment bill as well uh those bills will likely pass the general assembly this year okay but it does say we can look at some of the impacts like water resources um parks um anyway there are some impacts in there that you can look

[00:59:57] at but uh thank you john thank you mr crony um miss uh um stop uh thank you madam chair so i thought that supervisor briskman fairly clearly stated the the danger of um who would bear the cost for undergrounding, which, as Supervisor Kirshner indicated, would be up to ten times more expensive than overhead lines.

[01:00:32] I think it's usually seven to ten times more expensive. But then there was a further conversation with the county attorney, and I think that was left in a way that might be misleading to the public.

[01:00:48] My understanding of these bills that would authorize localities to fund at least 50% of the additional costs of undergrounding are that localities can pay for that by levying an additional utility tax on the customers, which is our residents and our businesses, not on necessarily the data centers, exclusively the data centers.

[01:01:16] So that additional tax, I think, is what Supervisor Briskman was indicating complete disapproval of, and I would agree with her, even though there appears to be potentially a cap for residential and for non-residential customers.

[01:01:35] But I think when I don't know if this board, even if we had the authority, would be willing to tell mom-and-pop shops and, you know, our residents throughout the county that we're going to hit them with an additional utility tax to pay for undergrounding.

[01:01:54] So if I have misstated that, please let me know. But that is my reading of many of these bills. Thank you. Mr. Letourneau? Madam Chair, may I respond to that, to the bill? Because it was amended at the last minute in committee. It provides for three options. One, general obligation bonds to pay for it. Two, would be coming out of general funds. And the third one was an electrical utility tax that you could add to your bill, and you'd have to follow the procedure and the guidelines that

[01:02:31] the state corporation commission has for implementing a utility tax. I spoke with the folks from the state corporation commission based on the language in the bill. They believe we'd have the authority to charge a particular rate class if we could identify that that rate class was causing the need for the low lines. Mr. Turner. Okay. So that last part is interesting because that's a positive development. And up until that point, I completely agree with Supervisor Brisbane's assessment that this is just setting us up to fail because we have as we know

[01:03:09] lots of concerned residents who are now being told and I really don't like how the sponsors of this legislation have messaged this as a solution to one particular problem that's currently in front of us because they're going to show up here and expect us to be able to wave a magic wand and come up with hundreds of millions of dollars which we cannot do. Now the question will be the devil will be in the details. It sounds like this is a gestation of an idea that's not really fully baked because the general assembly can give direction to the state corporation commission on how to consider those things so does the i'm sorry to put you on the spot and we can go back to this we need to but does the does this legislation or does that amendment give them

[01:03:48] that direction or is it leave it up to them to determine the appropriateness of or the standards by which we have to prove that a particular rate class is causing an issue requiring underground lines or lines. Madam Chair, if I may, the legislation gives the locality at the R&E to impose the utility tax on the in the manner that the SEC says is appropriate to recover the cost based on the State Corporation Commission schedule. State Corporation Commission has categories. I

[01:04:23] spoke with the folks from the State Corporation Commission while they were both in the senator and the delegates office and they believe that there was the authority to do it based on rate class but i agree with you the devil in this one is in the detail okay i actually wanted to raise an entirely different bill and i don't want to put jonathan on the spot i think i didn't bring it for because i think this fits into an existing category that we already have but that is sb 253 which started out as a senator lucas weatherization bill and energy assistance bill but has now been

[01:04:57] amended and now passed the Senate, and it requires that all net costs of electric generating capacity incurred as a result of requirements imposed by the regional transmission entity, so that would be in our case PJM, and all costs related to distribution infrastructure required to interconnect new customers with a load greater than 25 megawatts be assigned to the user class of those high usage customers. So this bill is not listed anywhere as one we're tracking, but it sounds to me like it really should be, and it could be potentially a much better solution than

[01:05:33] what some of these other things are by doing what I just said, which is essentially saying that it's assigned to the high-usage customers at the state level and not having all this whole rigmarole of the county and then having to go to the SEC and figuring these things out.

[01:05:51] So, number one, if that bill is as I described, I think we should support it, and I also think we should be tracking it. So, Mr. Turner, I'll come to you in just a second, Mr. Freeman. Mr. Turner, we have motions already in the dais to not just track but to support bills.

[01:06:10] And so if you'd like to make a motion on that when we get there, that would be fine. I think I would agree to just flat out support it, not to track it. But I'm going to go to Mr. Freeman to ask if you know about this bill And if you have anything that any of you want to add on that, in addition to what Mr. Letourneau just said.

[01:06:31] Yes, that was one of the bills in my remarks where it basically, there was an amendment placed on it in Commerce and Labor Committee that allowed for a 15.8 percent tax by demand on GS-5 rate class users.

[01:06:48] So high energy users, 25 megawatts or more, to pay for the ability to aid the electric costs for low-income elderly and disabled individuals. So I need a point of clarification on that.

[01:07:07] So levied by dominion. Is that right? Did I hear you right? That's the way it's been explained to us, yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay.

[01:07:23] Ms. Glass. Thank you, Madam Chair. Delegate Reed patron house bill 1122 which it's about landowners and their vested rights which is continued to be continued in 2027 session could you explain to me what that bill entailed and what and what does its continuation mean? It died. It died? It died. It's a soft way of defeating a bill, yes. You don't want that bill to die? Yes, you do. Yeah.

[01:08:02] Do you want to explain that bill to Ms. Glass? I will defer to Mr. Gustafson. Okay. Sure. Essentially, Supervisor, that would have broadened the scope of vested rights for landowners, so they'd be vested in a right to use their property, and it would be non-divestible, and the bill would simply give more leeway, more gratitude, if you will, to the landowner in asserting the claim

[01:08:31] that they have a vested right in their land use. Thank you. Mr. Turner. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to pursue that a little bit. My understanding of 11-22 was that it attached vested rights at site plan acceptance, not site plan approval. Way, way earlier in the application process,

[01:08:57] And my understanding was, layman that I am, was that if we attach it to site plan acceptance as vesting, we have basically obviated the entire legislative review process because they are now legally invested at site plan acceptance, which happens very early in the process.

[01:09:13] Am I incorrect in that? Well, I don't want to disagree with you, Supervisor. I didn't take that interpretation strictly, but it did mention that it would vest you to basically tangential aspects of the project rather than the specific project itself. So and so far as that, I agree with you, and that alone would be problematic.

[01:09:33] Whether or not it explicitly states that it would vest at the time of acceptance, I don't think I take that interpretation so strictly. But nonetheless, it would be a deleterious bill. Okay. I was pretty sure I read that carefully, but okay. It could be.

[01:09:48] It's dead, so it's a moot point. Mr. Freeman, so the two power initiatives that we have going right now are to allow Dominion to charge high-energy users an extra 15-point-something percent specifically to aid electricity bills for the elderly and disabled.

[01:10:10] That's one initiative. Is that correct? That is one bill that's out there, carried by Senator Lucas, for low-income, elderly, and disabled individuals. Okay. And then the other one is to establish the new rate class for high-energy users.

[01:10:29] No, that was already issued through the final order during Dominion's case back in November of 2025. So there's already a separate rate class. So there's already a separate rate class. Okay. Yes. The GS-5 rate class is what it's called.

[01:10:45] Okay. If I understand the issue, I think I associate myself with both Supervisor Bristman and Supervisor LeTrenner's comments, is that the bill, as I understood it, placed the onerous justification burden on the local jurisdictions to decide whether or not to pay for undergrounding, rather than allowing that judgmental burden to fall on the SEC.

[01:11:15] So it puts it on us. So it puts us in a position where if we choose not to burden our taxpayers or a certain class of taxpayers with extra taxes to pay for the undergrounding, then basically the local jurisdiction has made the decision not to underground.

[01:11:30] Well, I'll let our county attorney opine, but the way it's been explained to me is that after the SEC's determination, which the floor is 50-50, the floor is 50 percent the cost to underground on the locality, 50 percent on the SEC to figure out in conjunction with demand.

[01:11:58] The SEC clarified in committee that they could determine a different percentage lower than 50%, which would then increase the percentage on the locality.

[01:12:10] So let's say if the SEC determined that only 25 percent of the cost should be for the SEC and Dominion to figure out on an undergrounding project, then 75 percent would be on the locality to figure out whether that's through bonding, general funds, or through this additional taxing authority, which we've clarified that they could—we could assess that tax or the cost, essentially, to the GS5.

[01:12:40] rate which is a high energy user. Thank you. So, gosh, to Mr. Crony's first question. Is the McCulloch Bill and the Perry Bill on Oak Hill very similar bills? It's very similar language. They're identical. So, Mr. Crony, it doesn't matter that the Perry Bill was left in committee because the McCulloch Bill is the same bill. So what crosses over is the same language. And then would she ask, and you may want to go back and she asked, why is it a budget process? I'm not sure you heard her ask that, but when I

[01:13:19] finish my comments, you may want to go back and let her understand why it's a budget process, because I don't have time to do that right now. The transit bills have all been defeated. Is that what I'm hearing? Are those going to a budget process, or they are just dead? That's correct.

[01:13:35] The bills are dead, and so this is now a budget conversation. It's a budget conversation. It feels like, I mean, and that would include any conversation around dedicated funding for DMV moves, yes? It could. You could write that into the budget.

[01:13:52] I'm saying if there's a budget conversation, it may include that, but the bills themselves have died. The bills themselves have died, yes. Including any bills around DMV moves, that's died. The bills have died, yes.

[01:14:09] Hours of my life. Hours and hours. I think my colleagues ask all the other questions that I would have asked, so thank you. Did you have anything else you wanted to go over? Did you want to talk about the housing, I mean, the attainable housing bills or the land use bills?

[01:14:28] Well, to quickly go back to what Supervisor Tacroni's question was on the budget conversation, we have to remember this is an acquisition, and so this was always going to be a budget conversation. The bills allow for a vehicle, but I also want to note— It's not a bad thing.

[01:14:46] It's necessary that it has to go to budget. It's not a bad thing that's gone to budget. Yeah. Well, and when we say we're not asking the state for money, what we're talking about is we're not asking the state for general funds. So there is $10 million coming out of the state land acquisition and development fund.

[01:15:07] Not to be confused with the maintenance fund, which we have heard a lot of conversation about. We have had meeting after meeting after meeting, untangling the fact that this park does not need any money out of the maintenance fund.

[01:15:24] It's simply money out of the land acquisition and development fund. So I want to clarify that. So we're not asking the state for any general funds. That's what we mean when we say we're not asking for any money.

[01:15:39] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very, thank you very much, Jonathan. That was really very helpful. You can continue. Absolutely. So we continue to fight against the Faith in Housing Act bill. That is going to conference because the House and Senate bills are different. So, you know, we've got about a month or just under a month left before, you know, that that is a conference conversation.

[01:16:10] A month? It's a month. Wow. Yeah, usually the bills go to conference around the last week of session or so, but we're remaining watchful for when it could go to conference, because that could happen at any time. So another bill that we are fighting against is the buy-right development within a mile of a major transit stop.

[01:16:34] That's SB 717. That's a bill that a lot of folks are fighting against. Major transit stop is defined as a station or stop served by heavy rail, light rail, commuter rail, bus rapid transit or other high capacity transit service designated by DRPT.

[01:16:56] and so um that's a bill that really affects everybody around the commonwealth if you will or most uh and so uh it's a bill that everybody's fighting against right now um so though i think those are are really two of the the biggest fights right now if i could name uh two of the biggest fights on the the housing piece down here right now questions on that part supervisors no okay so i do so mr um mr freeman so we know that the faith and housing bill when it left the House, it had a reenactment clause, correct?

[01:17:31] That's correct. On the House. On the House side, yes. On the Senate side, it did not have a reenactment clause. Is that correct? That's correct. And so when it gets to conference, those are one of the things, that's something that they are going to have to discuss.

[01:17:46] That's correct. Is there any more discussions about that bill being permissive? Yes. There is. I think that that's one of the best ways really to turn these bills from bad bills to good bills, if you will, is to turn them into tools, meaning permissive, allowing you additional authority to do it if you would like.

[01:18:15] Do we know, you said you can go to conference anytime, how much leeway would we have before it went to conference, that's the first question. And secondly, it would be great if it's a month, it gives us, there's some time. Is there anything we should be doing through you or through our lobbyists down in Richmond to have those discussions with anyone who might be conferencing before it hits conference?

[01:18:44] So how much time will you know and is there anything we should be doing? Those are the two questions. And then on SB 717, does a major transit stop include a bus depot? My understanding was bus rapid transit.

[01:19:05] I know that especially Fairfax County has had a lot of issues. That's not really what bus rapid transit is, though. So in other words, if it's by a major transit something, if it's by a metro, if it's by an Amtrak station, by you know bus buses for every chance is it's much more about streets and how they're lined and that type of thing but if if you have a major bus depot like where are buses parked or something like that would it be would it apply would sb 717 apply to that that is not a question i've heard raised but

[01:19:41] we can definitely no no no no that's not that's okay that's that's not good it's fine it's fine it's fine um yeah that's fine if we don't know we don't know that's let's leave let's leave that one alone um go back to the faith faith in housing and when when will it go to conference and what should we be doing between now and then i believe that so first you know constitutionally before a bill can become a law has to go through committee so it will definitely have to go through committee um regardless of what kind of rocket docket that folks put it on uh so i would say for the house

[01:20:17] version it could come up as early as this friday in full cct a cct being county city styles committee uh in the house um and it could come up as early as this upcoming money monday and senate local government have to go through three uh well two readings on the floor um so it could be about it could be about a week or so from now and then we'll have about 72 hours to turn around um turn around some language when it goes conference before it goes back to the floor okay all right

[01:20:57] well jonathan thank you supervisors jumping great job by the way great job hard session great job supervisors um there are two motions on the table that i know of and this met this attorney you're going to make another one the first one is around the um spark and i told you all about this last week i was going to send you all this in a in a um in a straw poll vote but then i was told that other people had other motions they were going to bring, so I thought we'll just do them all on the same day since it's just a day after or the day after crossover.

[01:21:29] So the first one, we talked about this last week, I talked about this one with you last week. And so I'm with the Board of Supervisors to support House Budget Amendment 307-H and Senate Budget Amendment 308, Specially Adopted Resource Club Spark, Patron by Delegate Reed and Senator Boisco in the 2026 legislative session.

[01:21:48] Motions made and seconded by Supervisor Glass. Thank you Supervisor Glass, who's done so much work with our disability community and disability services board. Thank you for all that work you've done. So we know that we have a SPARC program in one of our libraries in Sterling.

[01:22:03] We know what they do. We know that SPARC actually helps, pardon me, are they on the library? Okay, good. SPARC actually helps clients who are unable to work. So SPARC clients are not people who usually can, usually their disabilities are such that it is almost, if not completely impossible for them to have a job.

[01:22:29] And what it does do is, when they go to the clubs, when they get socialization, they get all the services, but also give some respite to the family. And so we do want to help whenever we can to have any funds that can come from the General Assembly or wherever else to help SPARC.

[01:22:53] And we have done a lot, and again, Ms. Brickson, Ms. Glass did so much to leaning in to SPARC coming to Lauda, as did Mr. Sains. And so I think this is a good bill, and I thank Delegate Reed and Senator Boisco for pushing this forward.

[01:23:09] Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to say that I'm really excited to support this and I remember the first time when I met Ms. Debbie Alexander and I had the opportunity to visit Spark in Fairfax County and, you know, all the great things that they were doing there and I'm so glad that they were able to come to Loudoun County and just as a special education teacher.

[01:23:39] I'm just wonderful to see, you know, such work that's being done to help differing abilities. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Ms. Brixman. Madam Chair, I support this, of course, but I actually forgot to ask a question about one of the housing bills.

[01:23:57] Am I allowed to do it in this motion? Sure. Thank you. Mr. Freeman, was Senator Salim able to amend the transit development or transit, what's it called, TOD bill? Was he able to amend that to having a delayed enactment?

[01:24:17] Do you know? I have not seen a delayed enactment on that bill, but a delayed enactment could be placed on any bill. Okay. I had a conversation with him about doing that so that jurisdictions like Loudoun and fairfax and other jurisdictions could kind of justify or um show that they are really actually doing what the bill says already and so that um there would be like a grace period but i have i apologize uh it it wouldn't become effective until september 1st 2027 so that that is in the

[01:24:54] bill i apologize okay so that is delayed a little bit a little bit okay thanks all right i made a motion made the motion miss glass second the motion i'll be able to say aye any opposed motion pass 9-0 supervisor briggsman thank you madam chair and thank you for your grace on that last motion i appreciate it um i move that the loudon county board of supervisors support senate bill 339 state corporation commission cost allocation proceedings for certain electric utilities

[01:25:25] patroned by senator perry in the 2026 legislative session second second okay thank you um so i This bill stood out to me when I looked at it because, to me, it seems to be one of the only bills that actually recognizes that counties aren't the ones that have authority or control over Dominion or the SCC.

[01:25:53] So this is actually going at where the solution could be found. And so what it does is by January 1st, 2027, it's requiring the SEC to assess if Dominion Energy and Appalachian Power is unfairly burdening non-data center customers with transmission costs.

[01:26:16] And then by January 1, 2028, the SEC will determine if Dominion Energy's generation and distribution costs unfairly impact non-data center customers. So I think this is getting more to the source of the problem and actually the folks that can demand certain things like burying power lines, which we can't do.

[01:26:38] And so I appreciate my colleagues supporting this motion. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Just say thank you, Ms. Perry. Mr. Perry, good bill. All right, thank you, Ms. Brixman. Ms. Brixman, make the motion. I second the motion.

[01:26:53] I'll be able to say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion passed 9-0. Mr. Letourneau, do you like to make a motion? Well, reading the bill, I don't want to disagree with Mr. Freeman, but I see what he's saying about the elderly part, but then there's like a whole separate clause below that seems completely unrelated.

[01:27:11] So would I be correct in saying that this bill, if it does do what I described, would already fit within an existing county policy position and therefore could be something that would be supported? Tell me how.

[01:27:28] Well, I believe we already adopted a policy position calling for high users to be paying a greater share of electricity costs. And so that's what this bill does. But Mr. Freeman, was ours targeted?

[01:27:45] Are you saying you don't think it's targeted? I don't think this bill is targeted. Oh, okay. But I think Jonathan read it differently, so I don't— Okay, I got you. I mean, I'm both kind of doing it on the fly, so I don't want us to just jump in. I mean, I sent it to Tim and Leo just now also, and I don't know if they're looking at it, but maybe we could revisit this.

[01:28:03] Well, and Mr. Letourne, let me ask you, does it matter if it's targeted? Well, I guess. Well, I think it does. It does. I think it does. Yeah, I just ask and answer my own question, never mind. But I also question whether we need to take a vote specifically on the bill if it is generally what I think it is.

[01:28:22] This is an information item, so we can table this for a second while they read that. Go grab an action item, do that real quick, and come back to this. Sounds good. How does that sound? Mr. Freeman, can you just hang out for a little while? And we're going to do one more item, and then we're going to roll back around to this, and then we'll do a resolution, and then we'll do other stuff.

[01:28:45] How's that sound? Can you guys, y'all just hang out for a little while? Okay. Supervisors, we have enough time to probably grab Ms. Glass's initiative that I pulled off consent, and I'll talk about why I pulled it off consent in a second.

[01:29:00] But it is item number 10. It's a response to a board member initiative, the safety pedestrian study at Ashburn Village Boulevard. If staff would come to the table, Ms. Gillespie, if you want to make the motion, I can just have my, I can talk about why I take it off consent inside of a motion.

[01:29:17] That doesn't bother me at all. Okay, Madam Chair. I'm sorry? Yeah? Okay. Would you like to make a motion? Yes, Madam Chair. Okay. I move that the Board of Supervisors endorse the relocation of the existing Ashburn Village Boulevard, high visibility crosswalk at Pavilion Parkway, installation of rectangular rapid flashing beacons, construction of arrays, Median Refuge Island, and installation of new American with Disabilities Act compliant curb ramps.

[01:29:47] I further move that the Board of Supervisors authorize the amendment of the fiscal year 2026 capital improvement program by directing staff to execute a budget adjustment of $532,000 from the capital improvement program contingency account to the Ashburn Village Boulevard and Pavilion Parkway project in the capital projects fund.

[01:30:10] I further move that the Board of Supervisors authorize the Department of General Services to perpetually maintain the rectangular rapid flashing beacons along Ashburn Village Boulevard. I further move that the Board of Supervisors authorize the Department of General Services to perpetually maintain...

[01:30:28] You just read that. You just read that. Oh, I did? You read the same thing twice. Yeah, okay. You just read that. Yeah, you got it. You're good. Sorry. Motion is made in second by Mr. Turner. If you'd like to do an opening, that's fine, but I'm going to make a motion.

[01:30:44] I'm going to split the motion. But if you want to do a motion, if you want to do an opening, that's fine before I split the motion. Okay. Well, Madam Chair, I think there is a third part, and that's I further move that the Board of Supervisors authorize the Department of General Services to perpetually.

[01:31:02] I know. You read that. Oh, I did. Yeah. Okay. Yep, you're right. Would you like to do an opening, though, in all of it, before I split the motion? Sure. Sure. first i i just want to say that um there aren't residents here uh but um the residents that are that live in the area uh wholeheartedly agree with the recommendations that the that staff has given for this i also like to say that this is not my initiative this is as a response from a bmi

[01:31:44] from my former supervisor, Ron Meyer. So the recommendations from staff on how to remedy the situation was the improvements that were previously installed by a county contractor, and it was removed because it was faulty.

[01:32:06] So VDOT, what happened was VDOT came in, and they put in temporary battery-powered dimmer flashing lights as a temporary fix um and after that happened the contractor had gone out of business so that meant that the county it was on the county to um to you know fix the the situation

[01:32:34] So this item also is improvements that DTCI had recommended for improvements when I'm talking about the crosswalk, the pedestrian activated lights, the pedestrian refuge mediums that are now standard with VDOT, and when installing those crosswalks on four-lane roads, and that's because they don't want pedestrians to be in the middle of the road,

[01:33:15] in the middle of the intersection and want them to be safe in that area. I also want to point out that in the PDF on page 32, that when staff went out and they counted the number of folks that used that crossway, it was 138 people and that was on a Tuesday.

[01:33:40] so this is an area that's used by people that live in ashburn village but it's also people that live in potomac green that come um that you know cut across yeah because potomac green is close by in in certain areas they can cut across and they walk around the um uh the the lakes that are nearby so um okay that's i'm sorry you know i hope my colleagues um support this i once put the

[01:34:14] motion and this is and i'll tell you why miss miss miss glass i totally support the flashing lights and i do remember this admit what mr mr myers brought forward and so i was put the motion and say i'm with the board of supervisors endorse the relocation of existing aspirin village boulevard high visibility crosswalk pavilion parkway installation of rectangular rapid flashing beams construction of a raised medium i'm sorry flashing beams um i furtherman the board supervisors authorized department of general services to perpetually maintain the rectangular flashing beams along the ashburn village boulevard so this i'm splitting the motion and taking the flashing

[01:34:50] beams out and totally supporting that so that's the first part of the motion does anyone want to second that turn the motion no i have to i'm splitting the motions yes you do okay so i don't don't have any issue with the flashing beams, really. I mean, the flashing beams are basically, you know, you're going too fast. It's traffic calming. And the traffic calming is you're going too fast. And so this is not an issue for me at all. To have the rectangular flashing

[01:35:26] beams, to make sure DCTI maintains the flashing beams, no issue whatsoever. So I want to take, I'm trying to take care, I'm taking out the refuge item and the other, the middle is what i'm taking out but this for the flashing beams no item whatsoever no problem whatsoever you have a question yes yeah when you split a motion they're too they become two motions you have to you you split a motion and you yes you do miss frixman i didn't say anything you did before you

[01:36:01] said you don't have to split a motion a big motion when you split it you do uh i feel like this is more of an alternative motion so in the first part just point of clarification madam chair sure You're stopping at rectangular rapid flashing beacons, and you're deleting construction of raised median refuge island and installation of new American curb ramps.

[01:36:27] And then I'm going down to the bottom. And then you're keeping the transfer, the budget adjustment? No, I'm going down to the bottom, and I'm saying that they have to maintain the flashing beams. Okay. And if I might ask staff, were the raised meeting refuge and installation of the ramp part of the recommendations from the original BMI?

[01:36:58] So the original BMI had both short-term recommendations and long-term recommendations. The longer-term recommendations included relocating the crosswalk and having a median refuge, but the original item only funded the short-term improvements, so it just included the signage and the high-visibility crosswalk.

[01:37:26] Funding was not authorized for... The long-term. Correct. So am I to understand then that we're basically wrapping up the short term, we're fixing the short term, and then we're wrapping in it, if we were to approve the entire motion as Supervisor Glass read it, we're wrapping in the longer term recommendations and accomplishing those?

[01:37:50] That is correct. Okay. I won't be supporting the alternative motion. I support Supervisor Glass's original motion. Well, you don't know. Okay. Okay. It's fine. Okay. It's fine. Ms. Glass? thank you madam chair um the staff will vdot approve construction of the crosswalk without okay let me just say we're discussing we are discussing right now i split the motion for a purpose so that we didn't discuss both at the same time we are discussing the flashing beacons right now another motion would but we have split this motion and i split it for a very particular reason

[01:38:24] because i want to talk about the i want to talk about the other part when we get there okay miss attorney just commenting on the motion which is that i think if you support the full motion you should vote yes on this motion and then you should vote yes on the next motion as well which would then put them back together as one full motion that's what i'm going to point of clarification point of clarification madam chair i don't understand why it needs to be split if we're going to get back to the same place she doesn't support the second part oh you just don't

[01:39:01] support it you're just going to vote no on the second part oh okay well maybe someone could have told me that earlier. Thank you. So the entire board knew it, but it's all of our fault? Yeah, I'm the only one that didn't understand. Sorry, guys. So clarification. Okay. Thank you. Yes, Mr. Turner. So your proposed split removes the flashing beacons. No. I want to keep the flashing beacons. I'm sorry. It keeps the flashing beacons. It removes the raised median island and the installation of the ADA curb ramps. Yes, it does. And I will talk about why

[01:39:40] won't we get there. The way you read it, I thought it removes the entire second paragraph, which is funding. Does it not? Well, because I don't want what it's funding. Okay, so your proposal is a modified first paragraph and the third paragraph and no funding for this initiative. I don't know how much the first paragraph will cost a fund, but I know I don't want the middle paragraph and I will talk about that in a second. Okay, thank you. Okay, so it's That's the first paragraph now, and the first paragraph, I mean, we're talking about right now, this motion is for the flashing beacons and to maintain them.

[01:40:17] That's what this is. That's all this is right now. I don't even know what the funding would be, but we'll get there in a second. So that's the motion. Madam Chair? It's staff speaking. Hi. This is Heather Dietz with DTCI. Hi, Heather. I did just want to add that the funding would be needed for us to install the flashing beacons.

[01:40:36] I don't know what that amount is yet, so I'd have to know that amount, and I'll go back and talk about that. Thank you. So all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. Okay, that motion will pass 9-1. All right. 8-1.

[01:40:51] I'm sorry, 8-1. I'm going to make this other motion, and if I can get a second, I want to explain why I'm opposing it, okay? So let me make the motion. Either that, or Ms. Brisk, if you want to do it differently, if you want to make that motion again, and then I explain why I'm opposing it, that's fine too.

[01:41:07] you won't be so in the end it'll still be your motion it is split so just it's that the other part's right so you're not taking you're not doing the whole motion you're just doing okay so i made the motion but um taking out the installation of rectangular rapid flashing beacons no i'm well yes because that just passed yes i'm sorry yes and then in the funding portion okay okay

[01:41:39] so that motion is made and seconded discussion on that motion at all well madam chair i do need the funding portion correct is that added that's oh gosh that's the second part all right okay you're good all right would you like to make a there's an opening statement on that motion um well i'll i'll say that um when new projects come in the expectation is that we have ada

[01:42:15] compliant crosswalks we also are expect the expectation now is that when you have a four way a road with four lanes that and there's a middle section that you have a refuge in there so i'm just going by what the county expects to do when we are building our roadway for safety okay

[01:42:48] all right do i have a a pointer all right can you go to page 12 please of the item oh i'm sorry i didn't see mike slide on mike i'm sorry your light's on thank you madam chair um so Again, for clarification, I'm sorry, but so we passed the first paragraph minus the raised median refuge island and minus the installation of the ADA curb ramps, plus the third paragraph for perpetual maintenance.

[01:43:23] That was the first motion. The second motion now reinstitutes the funding mechanism with the second paragraph. Well, and it puts in the median strip and all those other things, which I think is going to pass. So all the funding would be there anyway. I just want to tell you all why I oppose it.

[01:43:39] That's all. So this motion we're considering now adds back in the raised median refuge island in the 88 quarters. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. I completely associate myself with Supervisor Letourneau's comments way back when we started this conversation.

[01:43:56] Well, maybe you should hear what I've got to say first. Thank you. Okay. Go to page 12, please, of the item. So let's start off before they get that up. Let's start off with page 10. If you go to page 10 of the Tinley Home Report, it says that in five years, there were seven crashes.

[01:44:14] They were all rear-end fender benders. At this location, there has never, ever been a pedestrian crash, ever, never. The reason I know this location so well and I need to pull this up is because I lived here for 10 years. I lived, can we please pull this up on page 12?

[01:44:30] I lived here for 10 years. These houses over here, this area is completely built out, completely built out. And no one, no one, they're not, Ms. Glass, with dear respect, Potomac Green is nowhere near here. You have to get in your car and drive to Potomac Green.

[01:44:46] Potomac Green from here is a 10-minute drive in my car. This is Asperin Village Boulevard. This is nowhere near Potomac Green. I'm not even sure where that's coming from. So I lived, is this working? This is not working. I lived right here. i live this is my was my house okay i don't know how to use this which one right i can't make it go up anyway i lived thank you thank you not working i live right there i live right there for 10 years i'm over here all the time i have neighbors and friends who live over here i'm over here all the time this is all homes the crosswalk is right here people are this is a sports

[01:45:24] pavilion people are not walking over here these homes right here they get in their car and they drive away. They're not walking across the street. Potomac Green is nowhere near here. And if you stand by this street right there and you turn, less than a half a block away, literally, is a stoplight. It's a four-way, it's a four-street with the stoplight, less than a half a block away.

[01:45:50] This is a refuge in the middle. That's what that is. That's what you're looking at right there. If you stand right here and look right about less than a quarter mile away, you see Capitol community church which is my church and ask me elementary school and under those two things going from one to the other is an un is a is a tunnel that goes underground so you have an underground tunnel right here you have literally right here a stoplight a stoplight you have a built-out community where people are not walking across this street to the sports pavilion potomac green is nowhere near here and for a half million dollars i can just think of a whole lot of other

[01:46:29] projects and a whole lot of other places, normally I don't get involved in these, but I can feel like a whole lot of other projects and a whole lot of other places where this happened, that million dollars can be spent for capital money. This right here is not a good use of this money.

[01:46:45] No one's crossing this street. Now I'm finished. Somebody tell me. My bad. I'd like to withdraw 30 seconds of your time. You can have my time back next time, Mr. Kirsten.

[01:47:02] so i'm voting no on this because i don't think it's needed i think it's a waste of money miss would you like a closing uh yes um well madam chair actually potomac green is on the other side there's a trail that people from potomac green use to get to our area it is okay i i ask my um colleagues to support thank you last made the motion who seconded this motion

[01:47:40] mr turner second the motion all people say aye aye opposed aye that motion will pass eight one all right thank you all right now we have time to do a resolution you want me to go back to the other thing that's right are you guys ready for that one yeah they're ready you ready for that mr himstreet mr mr if i could explain there is another provision of that bill that offsets the capital costs of infrastructure and capacity, which is being caused by high wattage users.

[01:48:12] The goal of that is to reduce the cost on the general base. And I think that's a good thing. It doesn't have anything to do with undergrounding, but it is talking about infrastructure and capacity and putting that cost on high wattage users. So with that in mind, I would move that we support SB 253.

[01:48:35] I would second that. I'm sorry. I would second that. Should I have a discussion on that? Yeah, just briefly. Are you guys listening down here to what's going on? What's happening down here? You all good? So there's some analysis out there that it would potentially raise rates on the high-voltage customers and reduce them on the general population by about 3%.

[01:48:53] It's essentially an offset. It's as energy costs rise, it places a higher degree of the cost with the high-usage customers reduce the cost on everybody else which i think is the general principle that we're we're all kind of after at this point so i am supportive of the bill and i think we should support it thank you very much mr turner thank you madam chair what's the definition of high energy user i'm just curious i think greater than 25 megawatts that's correct this is a category of users that the state

[01:49:28] corporation commission identified as high energy users okay so it's the sec's definition oh i should note that in paragraph number four there's a carve out for factories so you know you have lots of employees you're you're carved out of this so it really is to apply to other high wattage users with not too many employees so so i'm a little confused i'm going to support this no matter what and i'm and thank senator lucas for putting this bill forward it's a good bill i'm still a little confused is it a targeted bill for just the people who are who are elderly and the things that we

[01:50:06] thought it was. There is a provision in the bill in the first paragraph for that. This is in the third paragraph which provides a different source of authority which is to offset the cost of infrastructure and capacity. So then it's both? The system itself and the grid. It has nothing to do with the. Oh, they're two different programs. That's correct. Oh, and this helps both programs. Oh, this is a great bill. Mr. Freeman, please tell Senator Lucas. We think this is a great bill. Mr. Luterno, would you like a closing? All right.

[01:50:38] Ms. Luterno, make the motion. I second the motion. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion passed 9-0. Mr. Crony, we have a resolution to do tonight, don't we? All right.

[01:50:50] Would you please join me down front? We only have one resolution. Only one. How you doing?

[01:51:19] Everybody come through. Good to see you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. You ready? You have

[01:52:14] notes. I do. I have notes. All right. Well, thank you, everyone. It's an honor to support Asbury Lloyd today, and this is a resolution recognizing Asbury Lloyd Jr. Whereas baseball, known as America's favorite pastime, was not always integrated, but their love for the sport did not stop the men of the Middleburg Braves, an all-American league that played at Mickey Gordon Park. And whereas Asbury Lloyd Jr. from Philomont, Virginia, who played and coached on the Middleburg Braves, helped his father on the farm as a young boy and eventually joined the

[01:52:54] military. And whereas Mr. Lloyd Jr. served in the Korean War, which sadly led him losing partial hearing, but he did receive a bronze medal and he was also later honored on Capitol Hill with the ambassador for peace medal from the south korean government and whereas even when serving our nation mr lloyd jr would always remind himself of his wife back home and was blessed with a beautiful family four daughters and a nephew whom he raised with love and patience and whereas mr

[01:53:30] lloyd jr is a resilient man an exceptional baseball player and a hard worker not only did he never give up, but he also pushed his limits to reach new heights. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors does hereby recognize Asbury Lloyd Jr.'s legacy.

[01:53:52] So I want to thank everybody for coming tonight. Chair Randall reminded me that she recognized Asbury Lloyd in her State of the County address back in May. So thank you for doing that. And we have regina lloyd here and we have larry lloyd um and will william lloyd awesome and then are

[01:54:22] you a lloyd too jackson okay yes um and are you a lloyd oh all right wonderful so um hall's park is what i believe the baseball field was called back back in the day and i think 200 games were played 200 games for the Middleburg Braves wow and how many how many did they win Regina do you know did he keep track he was a pitcher right okay awesome we're hoping to do a plaque in

[01:54:59] Mickey Gordon Park so we were hoping to put that in the resolution tonight but I'll be doing a board member initiative so that we can recognize Asbury Lloyd at the baseball field and I want to thank regina and larry for helping do the history um of the area and of asbury lloyd and and his giving us his legacy so i really appreciate that we do have an essay that i'm not going to read that um maha made you know just just of his history so i really appreciate it all right does anybody want

[01:55:34] to speak and then yes i want to thank chair randall and all her staff for the many many things they've done for my dad he was recognized at the County State of the Union and State of the County Union State of the County and he was yeah and he was recognized in Capitol Hill with Korea for the Korean War medal that he received in but it was very very important to recognize dad with baseball baseball was his love baseball was his heart I was on one of his teams and as you used to say I used

[01:56:13] I rode the pine, and that means set the bench for a year until I learned how to play the way he wanted me to play. But he coached all of us. He coached Larry, coached Tex, and it was just very nice. It was very exciting to have Dad as my coach and my best friend.

[01:56:30] And I'm a daddy's girl. Well, here we are again. So everybody knows a little bit of the history of Millenburg. But anyway, I played there as well. So I would like for them to name the field Hall, Mercer, and Mickey Gordon.

[01:56:52] That is part of the history of this organization there. So if any way in your mind and heart you think you could do it, we would certainly appreciate it. Thank you. And one other thing I want to mention, that we do have our dear friend John here.

[01:57:11] John owns a lot over by the Mercer field. He has chickens and horses, and his chickens have kind of retired. They're not doing eggs right now, but he's going to fix that real soon. But John plays a big part in as far as Mercer, Phil, is concerned.

[01:57:27] The chickens can stop doing eggs. Would you like to speak? Well, thank you, Chair Randall and Laura Tricone, and to the board as a whole. We really appreciate this recognition.

[01:57:43] He is a local legend in the Middleburg community, and we all appreciate this resolution that's well-deserved. Thank you. So when I was researching for the state of the county and I researched about the Middleburg Braves and all the other what was then called Negro teams back then, and, you know, it kind of speaks to the spirit of a people that, you know, no matter what you're going through, what hardships, what trials you're going through, There was joy to be found.

[01:58:19] There was joy to be found in the community. There was joy to be found in the game. There was joy to be found in one another. And that is something to be said. It's kind of what keeps people going forward. And so many times that the people who tell history don't always know all the history. And so it is important for us to recognize these historic moments and these historic people locally, especially locally, and to tell the stories and to recognize them over and over again.

[01:58:44] And so I appreciate this, especially I appreciate it during Black History Month, to be quite honest, especially appreciate it during Black History Month. And I think that all the all the Middleburg is a special place. And and and the coming together of people in Middleburg, you don't always see that everywhere in the country, but we see this in Middleburg all the time.

[01:59:03] so i appreciate this resolution i so appreciate you all and for sharing your dad with us so many times um and and of having him still with us is absolutely phenomenal it is such a blessing at 97 at 97 so being 98 nuggets so thank you thank all of you and get your chickens going again so we can we'll get some eggs all right we're gonna yeah yeah i'm just sorry you couldn't be here, but 97 is amazing, and it truly is an honor, and I want to thank Jeb and John

[01:59:39] and Megan for being so supportive and helping really try and protect the history of Mickey Gordon Park and make sure we tell the story, so thank you. The essays, one to Regina, maybe to Larry, Larry can have the essay, okay.

[02:00:00] We have to go all this way, take a picture, like this, we should come to this direction.

[02:02:50] way too long. Okay, we have two people for public comments tonight, and although it's about a second early, I do see them both here. Mr. Crow and Mr. Griffin. Mr. Crow, I tried to call you. I thought I had your number, but I didn't. Yeah, but I will find it. Okay?

[02:03:29] Ready when you are. We have three people out, actually. I have a third person. Okay? ready when you are mr crow thank you thank you again as always my name is shane crow coming from the algonkin district and of course the friendly nuisance always speaking in favor of rank choice voting i just wanted to give an update on behalf of upvote virginia again the non-partisan good governance organization in support of rank choice voting to give an update as to where the rank rank choice voting legislation in the General Assembly is at this time. Since today is crossover,

[02:04:04] I'm happy to say that there are two bills that would expand the local option for localities to use rank choice voting, and those would be House Bill 630 and its companion, Senate Bill 176. Both of those have passed their respective chambers and will continue through the legislative process.

[02:04:22] We are hopeful that they will pass again in the other chambers and they will receive the signature of Governor Spanberger. As a reminder what these bills would do is to expand the local options so it's no longer just city councils and county board of supervisors but all local governing bodies so that would include school boards for example and it would also extend over to town councils for them to opt in to rank choice voting if they would like as well. Cough Percival Cough. Man just know for the record that quip about Percival is me speaking personally not on behalf of Virginia.

[02:04:59] But another thing too, and we're grateful that this was also included in the language, there is currently a sunset provision on this local option that under both House Bill 630 and Senate Bill 176 would be removed, so the local option will become a permanent part of the Virginia Code.

[02:05:16] Now, were this to become law, I don't think for a second I'm going to take off the pressure in advocating for rank choice voting here in Loudoun. But I'm hopeful that, like, with these changes, we can help re-engage the conversation and potentially have rank choice voting used here for our local elections come 2027.

[02:05:33] So, again, I thank you for your all's time. Have a wonderful evening. Thank you. Do you mind sending me an email with your number so I can give you a call? Oh, absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Crowe. I appreciate it. Hello, Mr. Griffin. How are you? I'm doing very well. Thank you. how are you i am well thank you everybody when you are good i'm actually wanting to know why you haven't responded to my freedom of information act requests is there a reason mr giffin this is your time and i'm gonna let you talk during your time well yeah i can take my time but i'd like to

[02:06:05] know why i actually expect an apology from you for your conduct at the last meeting you defamed me i think you said that i had spoken inappropriately you made it sound like i'd spoken some pornography or obscene language to young people i don't know why you did that but uh maybe you can explain it because i am going to exercise my right to face the chamber here and speak to the people at large

[02:06:38] because i have something very important to tell them as you know there is a an election coming up can we stop mr griffin's time please i'm sorry thank you thank you mr griffin i'm going to stop your time for just a second if you don't mind so mr griffin the the rules of order of loudon county say that you speak you address your comments to the board they are constitutional mr griffin i i i i believe you are a valuable constituent and i want to hear in fact the board wants to hear

[02:07:15] which you have to say. And when you come before us, you're addressing your grievances to the Board of Supervisors. And so I'm going to ask you, with respect, that you do address your comments to the Board of Supervisors and not to audience members, because you are coming to speak and talk about grievances. And really, anything you want to say to me, that's fine. I do want to hear what what you want to say, so I'm going to ask you that respectfully, and now I'm going to start your time again. We can start his time. Did not Leo Rogers explain to you or tell

[02:07:52] you all about prior restraint? Your rule is unconstitutional, so I'm going to continue to speak to the audience, and I'll try to get myself over here so you can hear. I have a right to speak to you. I don't have to always face the board. I can speak, and I have a right to. But there is an election coming up on April 27th. Can you stop his time, please?

[02:08:18] That is very, very important to you. Can you cut the mic? Yep, there is. Mr. Griffin, I'm going to warn you one more time, sir, and then I'm going to call you out of order. Okay, Mr. Griffin, you are now out of order. Supervisors, can you please leave the dais? Just give me one second, sir, okay? No problem. Thank you. So, Loudon, the board has what's called rules of order, and the rules of order that we have been

[02:11:45] agreed on by the full board is that people can come to the boardroom and say just almost anything within reason and they address the comments to the board. If we allow them to address them to the audience, then that can really get to be a bad scene where audience members are yelling back to speakers and that type of thing. Grievances of the board or compliments to the board or whatever should be addressed to the board. And so it has been Dozens of times that I've asked the gentleman to do that, and at some point when you ask after a long time, at some point you have to do something different.

[02:12:24] So I ask everybody, we are going to treat you with respect and dignity when you come in this boardroom. We ask to be treated with respect and dignity. We ask that you follow the board's rules of order, and that's about it. Hello, sir.

[02:12:39] Thank you for your patience. Thank you for waiting. You are Mr. Heidi. Yes, ma'am. We're ready when you are. All right. I apologize at the two minutes. This is going to be really short, sweet, because I could spend five minutes talking about the school budget, but you only gave me two. I'm from Sterling.

[02:12:55] I know you got the budget cycle coming up, and there's items I have just noted, even just for the public information, that I think need to be called out and give you some warnings of the next three current budget, as well as the next three years. The budget will probably be about $25,000 per student with a declining population. Within three years, we're going to be at $30,000 boost student in a declining population of another 4,000 students. So really compounding, the budget is going up more than 6% a year. But also in the current budget, there is, I have no idea why, that there's 14 additional elementary school principals. Did we lose that many? 11 more

[02:13:33] middle school principals. This isn't vice, these are principals. And 14 more high school principals added into the budget. That's just not telling you he wants to add more. Why? I can write all this up and send it to you guys, you're going to have a ball. I don't teacher bash. I got a lot of families with teachers. I'm not going to be able to get to only about the one page here. Teachers have a six and a half percent contract raised for the next three years. That's guaranteed. That's not in their salaries. That's not in the step increases. That's not on the salary table that we all see in here. He's also asked to increase the salary table two and a half percent. Not that

[02:14:11] they're getting six and a half percent. They're getting two and a half percent. And every teacher, unless they did something really wrong gets another step increase from one to 30 every year that's about another one percent right there the teachers are sitting at nine percent then the state's going to give money the teachers are at ten percent why is he going to give a two and a half percent step increase when their contracts giving them eight six and a half that adds up to about 50 60 million dollars over time he wants 110 million also 1400 students were weren't in school last year out of their census count that comes at 35 million dollars they still got to

[02:14:46] spend where did it and it's rolled over this year 1400 students is a middle school and an elementary school so that was projected students i understand mr heiden your time's up i know you guys got a lot how about you do me so two things one you you absolutely when we start the budget process and we have public comments public hearings please come in and if you could send those all to us or if you can give them to the clerk if he can make copies i'll have to write it up it's all my chicken scratch okay highlighted okay i thought maybe three minutes i could get through it which i could probably all right i'm pretty good at public speaking but two minutes um there's a lot of

[02:15:23] stuff in there i think needs to have your eyeballs brought to the attention thank you sir thank you very much okay thank you we're going thank you sir i appreciate it we're going to finish the agenda before we go to break uh uh because we're going to just finish it and then go to closed session at the end yeah so uh let's do this um let's do um appointments and nominations if your appointment nomination please put your light on none i have one no okay wait i have one you

[02:16:00] have one okay so i nominate jessica lewis to the library board of trustees for the little river district very good we have one more action item and then we do public comment i mean board comments and then we would go to closed session and we'll be done so let's do the last um action item which is item three b i'm sorry i'm sorry it's item six and there is a motion on the dais mr turner on that

[02:16:30] item madam chair this is actually uh i believe an amendment a friendly amendment to the main motion okay well let's get to let's get to um and this is a this is an amendment i i don't okay i think it'd be friendly but it's a full amendment let's get here first you want to make the main um let's get here first okay okay hello hello ready when you are pull up our presentation i can go over

[02:17:06] very quickly i was going to say it's just seven slides but there's seven slides packed full of

[02:17:27] information brief presentation to get you up to speed um okay so good evening i'm pat julio with the Department of Planning and Zoning. Also with me this evening is Brian Wegner, Assistant Director with Planning and Zoning, and Paul Vernon, Project Manager with Kimley Horn. The Electrical

[02:18:07] Infrastructure CPAM Comprehensive Plan Amendment proposes map and policy amendments to the 2019 general plan related to the preferred location, siting, design, and aesthetics of high-voltage transmission corridors and electrical infrastructure. The Board, at their January 14, 2026 public hearing, reviewed and forwarded the CPAM to a future business meeting for action.

[02:18:29] The map and text amendments proposed with the electrical infrastructure CPAM build on existing policies in chapter 6 and 7 of the 2019 general plan. The slide on the screen identifies key topics that are addressed in the CPAM, including the efficient use of existing transmission corridors, minimizing impacts through compatible siting and design, recreation and natural areas within transmission corridors, and collaboration with electrical providers in the community when considering new transmission line projects to minimize community and environmental impacts.

[02:19:02] The policies propose the inclusion of an electrical infrastructure map, identifying all existing and approved high-voltage transmission corridors as a feature of the 2019 general plan. The adoption of the electrical infrastructure map, in combination with the draft policy supporting the co-location of transmission lines and existing corridors, provides policy guidance to locations where the county would anticipate and support the co-location, expansion, and development of high-voltage transmission lines.

[02:19:29] In Virginia, the state corporation commission has regulatory authority over public utilities, including the approval of high voltage transmission lines and electrical rates. However, provisions within state, the Code of Virginia direct the SEC to consider guidance within county's comprehensive plan when requested by the jurisdiction during the review of transmission projects.

[02:19:49] While the county has no formal role or authority in the approval process for transmission lines, the inclusion of the proposed policy amendments and electrical infrastructure map in the 2019 general plan serve as a guide to improve the county's ability to influence the location, development, and management of high voltage transmission corridors and electrical infrastructure.

[02:20:11] So at the January 18th Board of Supervisors public hearing, the Ashburn District Supervisor provided suggested text revisions to seven proposed actions and strategies related to the location of transmission lines and underground construction for consideration by the board. The suggested text revisions are discussed in the analysis section of your staff report and include it as attachment three in your packets.

[02:20:33] Staff supports all the suggested text revisions with the exception of the elimination of the reference to road right of way in strategy 6.1 E. So road right of way represents one of the most developed and interconnected linear features within the county.

[02:20:50] Collocating transmission lines with existing roads minimizes the need for additional land and easement acquisitions. It also minimizes the impact on individual properties and environmental resources since these road corridors have already been cleared and graded and developed.

[02:21:07] Colocating transmission lines with existing roads also provides better access to transmission lines for repairs, maintenance, and upgrades by electrical providers. Staff does not support the proposed revisions to strategy 6.1 and recommends that the original draft language displayed on the lower portion of the screen that includes the reference to road right-of-way be retained.

[02:21:30] staff supports approval of the CPAM. With the Ashburn District Supervisor suggested text edits provided in attachment three, excluding those provided for strategy 6.1 action E, which strikes the reference to road right of way. So with that, that concludes our presentation.

[02:21:46] We're available for questions. - Okay, so supervisors, can we go straight to a motion? And can you ask a question in the motion, Ms. Briggsman? I bet you can.

[02:22:01] So at the end of that, you said staff supports the motion as amended with the Supervisor Turner has in his hands. Is that what you said to me? We do support the motion before you, correct. The one that Supervisor Turner has on the dais?

[02:22:17] That is correct. Okay. So then if that is the case, I will go to that amended motion, which is on the dais right now. Mr. Turner, would you like to make a motion? Yes, Madam Chair. I move the Board of Supervisors, direct staff to amend Strategy Action 6.1, Action E, to now read, quote, when feasible, construct new electrical transmission and distribution lines within and along existing utility, metro rail, and road right-of-way in appropriate locations identified in the fiscal management and public infrastructure policies in Chapter 6 of the Loudoun County 2019 General Plan to minimize impacts on existing and future developments.

[02:22:55] Motion made and seconded. Discussion of motion. Thank you, Madam Chair. So we originally just wanted to edit the language in 6.1 E, Action E, and we worked with staff, and they weren't comfortable with that, so my staff and county staff worked together to come up with this language.

[02:23:13] So this language is acceptable to all parties about strategy 6.1, action E. So if this is approved, then it would simply allow the main motion to be made except for the excluding the edits to strategy 6.1, action E, if this passes.

[02:23:31] Does that make sense? Makes sense to me. Okay. Mr. Letourneau. Yeah, just I didn't have time to look up what chapter 6 actually says. I was thinking, and maybe missed exactly where Mr. Turner went, that what we want is for this to be essentially not adjacent to residential areas.

[02:23:53] Is that, when we say appropriate locations identified in Chapter 6, what exactly is that definition? So what we have, if you look, there are additional policies that specifically call out locating transmission corridors in areas planned for industrial and employment uses while avoiding areas that are planned for residential, suburban.

[02:24:13] So this actually, by adding the declaring language in appropriate locations, references those other policies that are there and gives it more strength. Calling back to that, okay, specifically. That's the clarifying statement that's being added. And then with the additional language.

[02:24:28] So that would essentially encourage, potentially encourage transmission lines along right-of-way when it is not adjacent to residential. That's correct. All right, I am supportive. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Brixman. Thank you, Madam Chair.

[02:24:46] So could you put the map up, please? So, okay, so these are the corridors that we're identifying. Do we know if they are at capacity yet?

[02:25:06] We don't have that information. Okay, but haven't we been told, basically, that the W&OD corridor is at capacity and no more power lines can go down the W&OD corridor, and that's how we ended up, basically, with power lines on Route 7?

[02:25:25] Is that not correct? I couldn't speak to Dominion's planned transmission projects or their future transmission lines that are there. As you've seen with a lot of the recent applications, we're seeing additional, the ability to place additional transmission lines within those existing corridors.

[02:25:43] And that's one of those policies that supports. Some. But I guess I'm a little bit worried that, I mean, I guess we can update the map at some point. but it's my understanding that these corridors are basically at capacity and that Dominion and PJM and whoever are going to have to find new places to put power lines.

[02:26:08] Did we talk about that in this process at all? As part of phase two, we'll be looking at, that's the section we're looking at. Got it, okay, okay, okay. And then when we're talking about a road right-of-way, what type of road are we talking about?

[02:26:27] Because it's my recollection at our last board meeting that we were trying to avoid a road with power lines. Like, we were trying to encourage the best we could, I guess, not to put power lines on Loudoun County Parkway, I guess, because of residential.

[02:26:46] But Dominion might look at that as a road right-of-way. So what's an appropriate road if not Loudoun County Parkway? So, once again, in the clarifying statement, inappropriate locations, we have the additional policies that talk about avoiding urban centers, residential neighborhoods, which are applicable to that.

[02:27:06] Okay. Okay. So, an appropriate road would be a road that doesn't have residential facing. It's not a residential road. As a first preference, again, the policies direct you towards industrial and employment areas.

[02:27:23] Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, I'm supportive of the motion. I just, you know, I'm not on TLUC, so I didn't get to ask a lot of the questions, but I'm generally supportive of the motion. Thank you. Thank you Madam Chair. I am supportive of the motion and I appreciate staff's reassurance that you approve all of the proposed language in the amendment.

[02:27:51] In trying to figure out, though, the limits of our authority, if Pennsylvania is building more power plants, and we are not in Virginia, and data centers are being approved south of Loudoun County, and it's a direct line between Pennsylvania power plants and data centers to our south, how long do you think we have until other routes are opened up?

[02:28:23] against the policies of the board. I don't have that information. The one thing I will note though is in terms of delivery of additional power, some of the proposals for high voltage direct current that we've seen are that means of delivering power, particularly the one we just saw from Dominion, delivering that power from the south to Loudoun County and those other areas that are constrained. So I'm optimistic that that will be a solution as we move forward, particularly since those are located within the existing corridors. They're buried, so there are a lot of benefits to

[02:29:03] that. But again, not being a transmission engineer, it's a difficult question to answer for you. I think, would you agree that we are, in this language, stating our strong preference and enabling the SEC to say, well, we have two options here and one is approved by the Board of Supervisors in the general plan and the other is not and we'll go with the one that the board has recommended.

[02:29:34] But is there going to be a caveat to that unless it's too expensive? Again, those are the decisions made by the SEC and not us as a county. However, these policies put us in better standing in identifying those locations and what we as a county and as a community look to see while considering these routes.

[02:29:58] Okay, thank you. Mr. Kirshner, I'm sorry, that wasn't you. Mr. Turner. Oh, thank you, Madam Chair. So the original intent here was the original language included road rights of way.

[02:30:14] my staff and I looked at it and thought we don't want to give Dominion or the SEC a blank check on all roads in Loudoun County as a preferred area for power lines so we wanted to add some more restrictive language and the more restrictive language with the reference to our policy documents strengthens that position I and I I'm inclined to agree with Supervisor Brisbane's assessment that our rights-of-way, as far as I know, are already full with high-voltage AC lines.

[02:30:45] I just don't think we have any more room, with the possible exception of a route. Well, I'm not going to even say it because it's in my district, and I hope they never figure it out. However, there's another possibility that Mr. Giglio pointed out, and it's correct. So let's say there is a high-voltage, I just found out today, there is a ultra-high-voltage AC line coming across the northwest corner of Loudoun County.

[02:31:09] There's a high-voltage DC line, I believe, going into Dobbs. I could be wrong, in Maryland. And there's a high-voltage DC line coming into Mosby substation in southern Loudoun. Anybody who wanted to connect the Maryland line, high-voltage line, with the southern high-voltage line, the easiest way to do it would be to run a high-voltage DC line from the north to the south along our existing right-of-way.

[02:31:33] It could be buried in a five-foot trench, planted over. No one would see it. it wouldn't impinge on any more right-of-way, and it would be able to move power from the north to the south. With this guideline, it says if you're going to consider a high-voltage line through Loudoun County, we prefer it be buried in existing rights-of-way, and that could easily be done with a high-voltage DC line. Getting it out to Data Center Alley in the east, right now they don't have DC distribution lines. I hope that somebody's working on that so that the power from mosby substation down by bull run right now the answer is simply convert it to ac power and

[02:32:12] upload it on the existing grid which doesn't have any more room so i'm hoping they convert it they keep it as dc and create an entire separate high voltage dc or dc distribution network just for the exclusive use of data center alley then it's a completely separate billing structure it doesn't impact on residential or small businesses and they become two separate systems that's theoretical in the future but this kind of language says if you can bury the lines bury the lines that's our preference and then we'll let you figure out the technology thank you madam chair thank you mr turner made the motion mr kirschner seconded the motion i'll be able to say aye any opposed

[02:32:50] that motion will pass nine zero okay colleagues that was our last um action item how about we go into um point of clarification madam chair i'm sorry yes so we passed my recommended amendment for the new for but we didn't pass the underlying ordinance and that ordinance should eliminate the last phrase excluding edits to chat strategy 6.1 action need why don't you make that motion thank madam chair i move that the board of supervisors approve cpam 2024 0005 electrical infrastructure

[02:33:25] provided as attachment 3 to the february 18 2026 board of supervisors business meeting action item which incorporates all of the ashburn district supervisors proposed edits provided during the January 14th, 2020. That's not right anymore, is it? Which incorporates all of the Ashburn District Supervisor's proposed edits, period. I did that on the fly, that's right.

[02:33:57] Your motion is made by Supervisor Turner, seconded by Supervisor Kirshner. Would you like an opening on that motion? Would you like to speak on this motion? Would you like a closing on that motion? Okay. I'll be able to say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 9-0. Thank you very much.

[02:34:16] Supervisors, I did hear back from the Copper Mills, and they said that they actually would prefer that there is no date for that application. But if they did have to have a date, they'd like it to be April 21st. So there you go.

[02:34:37] So we'll make that, we'll move that to the April 21st meeting. Let's do board comments and nominations. And we will start with Ms. Umstop. I'm sorry, board comments and disclosures.

[02:34:55] Thank you, Madam Chair. I only have one disclosure, and that was a phone call with Molly Novotny on behalf of Cochrane Tech on February 17th, and I have no board comments and no nominations. Thank you.

[02:35:16] Mr. Materno. Several disclosures. February 4th, my staff met with Molly Novotny of Curata and Danielle Scaline of Prologis to discuss Concord industrial application. February 5th, my staff met with Mike Romeo of Walsh Kalushi and Graham Brock of JLB Partners to discuss Foxgate LEGY 2025 0008. February 13th my staff spoke with Molly Novotny of Curata and about LEGY 2024 0037 Cochrane Tech and LEGY 2024 0002 Concord Industrial Park. On February 17th I spoke with Chuck Kuhn

[02:35:55] of JK Land about Valley Commerce Center LEGY 2023 0080 and on February 17th I spoke with Tom Davis who was representing um cochran tech regarding the cochran tech application um i just wanted to take a moment and recognize the life of supervisor michael fry from the sully district in fairfax county i overlapped with uh with mike for my first term and he really had a an impact on me because he was truly such a beloved figure he was the first sully district supervisor which

[02:36:34] which is the district that's adjacent to mine in Fairfax. Served in that position for 24 years. But many of you know the legend, perhaps, of the Braddock and Pleasant Valley roundabout, which is in Fairfax County. And Loudon traffic was piling up at this intersection, which only had a stop sign.

[02:36:52] And I had the crazy idea to try to put in a roundabout. And I had a willing board who was willing to put money into it in my first term. And we were able to get that done through the county budget and then even with some state money from then-delegate David Ramadan.

[02:37:11] But we had to get Fairfax County on board. And the entire area of Fairfax County where this is located was opposed to this project. They were 100% convinced that this was just to benefit the Loudon people who were running roughshod over Fairfax County and ruining their way of life.

[02:37:31] that building this roundabout was going to just make it worse. And so I had to go to Michael Fry and I had to ask him for his help. And he did a lot of due diligence. He met with VDOT and then he said, you know what, it's a good project and it's the right thing to do. And then I went to a public meeting in Stone Middle School in Fairfax County and I watched Michael Fry stand there for three hours, maybe it was two, and get yelled at by his constituents for supporting this project that i wanted because he thought it was the right thing and i'll tell you i was only like a year or two into this job and i was young and that really made an impression because sometimes you just have

[02:38:08] to stand in there and you have to do what you think is the right thing to do even sometimes when your constituents don't agree with you but i found and i think michael found in his career that if you explain yourself they at least can respect it so rest in peace michael he was a animal lover, and they've named the animal shelter after him in Fairfax, and appreciate his service. Thank you for that, Mr. Letourneau.

[02:38:31] Appreciate that. Ms. Glass. Thank you, Madam Chair. Board disclosures on Wednesday, February 11th, my staff spoke with representatives from Curata to discuss the Concord Industrial Park application and ARCA of Loudoun School application. On Tuesday, February 17th my staff spoke with representatives from Curata to discuss the Concord Industrial Park

[02:39:00] and Cochrane Tech Data Center applications. I guess I would start off with saying happy Black History Month. Very proud to be an African American and to be on this dais and to be a servant to my community and work with you all.

[02:39:34] I feel like it's been a blessing. You have your challenges at times, but there are also some really good times where you see the work that has been done and it's to help your community.

[02:39:51] I also want to say Ramadan Mubarak for those who are celebrating in the Muslim community as well as it is the Lent season. So that is all I have to say. Thank you.

[02:40:07] Thank you. Mr. Kirshner. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll be short tonight. I just have one mandatory reporting. I spoke with Tom Davis on the Cochrane Tech application on February 18th, and I don't have anything to report.

[02:40:23] No news from Catoctin tonight. Keep it simple. It's all the same as it was two weeks ago, so we'll have some new stuff next time around. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Crony. Oh, news. Wow. On February 4th, members of my staff met with Tommy Roush, Ben Wales, Brian Downey, Colleen Gillis, and Bill Junda regarding the Dulles North III application.

[02:40:51] For my board comments, I had the pleasure of attending the ribbon cutting for Oak and Ember Tasting Room and Market in the village of Aldi. Kristen Puccio is the owner of this fabulous new establishment. At 25, he opened Puccio's New York Deli in Leesburg, a sandwich shop that I think we've all had lunch at.

[02:41:15] After selling it in 2009, he spent eight years as a general manager. also in Brambleton, which is a fabulous restaurant. Years ago, he noticed a historic building in Aldi. The timing wasn't right, but when it came available, he was ready. And this restaurant is really a homecoming for him. He spent over two decades building relationships with farmers, winemakers, chefs, and the people who make Latin County special. Now he is bringing oak and ember to the village of aldi and i know everyone is very excited in fact he told me

[02:41:54] he is taking reservations now in at the end of march and april so it is really a popular place i am hosting a community meeting on february 25th at 6 30 p.m at brambleton corner clubhouse 4-2-2-5-5 Palladian Blue Terrace about traffic safety concerns at Olympia Drive. I mentioned this at my last during my last board comments. Residents have been very concerned about speeding on this road for about 10 years because it's used as a cut through through the town center

[02:42:31] and unfortunately there was a fatality on the road earlier this year. So there will be the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office, DTCI, and the Brambleton developer will be joining me so we can work together on a solution to make that road safer for all. Lastly, I have office hours at Birchwood on March 24th from 2 to 5 at the Birchwood Clubhouse, and this is an opportunity for the Birchwood community to stop by, share concerns, ask questions, or seek assistance.

[02:43:07] Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Sainz. Thank you, Madam Chair. No mandatory disclosures at this meeting. I'd like to thank our frequent guests regarding the ranked choice voting.

[02:43:26] I appreciate your efforts in continuing to come out and speak, and glad to see efforts are being made this year in the General Assembly regarding that. I wish they included some other elections as well, but we'll start with the local, And then hopefully things will take off from there. As many of you know, yesterday morning, we lost a giant for this country and actually for the world, Reverend Jesse Jackson.

[02:43:53] For those who don't know, he was raised by a single mother in the segregated South in Greenville, South Carolina. But he didn't let segregated schools stop him. He actually was a very good student. So good, he actually received a minor league baseball contract at the ripe old age of 18, but he declined that because he got a full scholarship to go play football at the University of Illinois, which he did for one year, but then transferred out to North Carolina A&T, which is a historically black college in Greensboro, North Carolina.

[02:44:25] One of the reasons what drove him to transfer was he was motivated by the actions of students in February of 1960 who did a sit-in at the whites-only lunch counter at the Woolworths department store and refused to move.

[02:44:42] Mr. Reverend Jackson eventually became a mentee to Dr. Martin Luther King and was there, unfortunately, on that day that we lost Dr. King. But he continued on with the civil rights fight, went to start his own organizations, the Push Movement and the Rainbow Coalition, Operation Push and the Rainbow Coalition.

[02:45:03] thank you madam chair and then ran for the presidency uh the democratic nomination twice for first in 1984 and then second in 1988 he actually did very well and was the the leading candidate for a period of time in 1988 and actually won the primary in virginia alabama and a few other southern states which is monumental you think about it in those times and because of uh reverend jesse jackson built a coalition of not just african-american voters but latinos whites asians and etc which we see the results of to this day uh with uh with

[02:45:42] the democratic party so uh he coined the phrase uh keep hope alive and he also coined the phrase i am somebody so please do your your homework on on reverend jesse jackson he actually also did uh international affairs and was sent to do uh hostage negotiations in several key areas and brought home he didn't he flew there on the plane by himself but every time he went he came back with the folks that he tried to that he went to bring get out of those situations and he did a great job so thank you reverend uh jesse jackson for all your your efforts for

[02:46:19] the united states and in the internationally in the world thank you uh miss brixman thank you Madam Chair. On February 10th, I met with representatives from Curata and B.F. Saul on the Dulles North 3 application. On February 10th, I met with representatives from Curata and Prologis to discuss the Concord Industrial Park application and also had a phone call with them about it yesterday. On February 10th, I met with representatives from Curata and Arc of Loudoun to discuss their move and relocation to the National Conference Center. We continue to learn of the heinous actions of ICE and the debacle of the tyrant president's racist mass deportation scheme.

[02:46:57] Fewer than one in seven of those arrested in the last 12 months have charges or convictions of violent criminal offenses, according to DHS's own data. The DHS data obtained by CBS News states that only a small fraction of the nearly 400,000 migrants detained by ICE since last January are violent offenders, undermining the claim that the federal government is going after the worst of the worst. Instead, they are weaponizing federal agencies to cleanse our nation of others.

[02:47:28] The data also shows that 42 percent of ICE arrests in the last 12 months involve people with no prior criminal charges or convictions. Nearly 40 percent were accused of only civil immigration offenses, such as living in the U.S. illegally, with around 11,000 accused of allegations such as interfering with ICE's operations. More than 100,000 were charged with nondescriptive other crimes. I again call on Sheriff Michael Chapman to end his 287G agreement with DHS and ICE because the agency cannot be trusted, because detainers can be based simply on an administrative warrant that is not seen by

[02:48:07] a judge, because detainers do not conclusively show that those being transferred by our Loudoun County Sheriff's Department are the worst of the worst or even have received due process. They are lying, and that agreement should be ended. Thank you, Supervisor Sains, for your comments about Reverend Jesse Jackson. I yesterday went down a rabbit hole and watched some of his speeches, and I especially enjoyed his appearance on Sesame Street, where he led the chant, I am somebody. I am somebody whether I'm on welfare, whether my hair is different, whether

[02:48:44] the color of my skin is different. I am somebody. And it was very, very touching. And it's very sad to learn that we will no longer have that moral compass leading us in our nation. But hopefully some others will pick up the mantle as he did. From the gun violence archive, there have been 1624 total gun deaths and 43 mass shootings this year the deaths include 23 children under the age of 12 and 111 age 12 to 17. thank you madam chair miss brixman we are the ones to pick up the mantle

[02:49:20] we are somebody mr turner thank you madam chair uh i'd like to join my colleague supervisor luterne on honoring michael fry i did not realize until you mentioned it he was actually my supervisor for seven years. I lived in Centerville from 1993 till 2000, and I met him several times, good supervisor. I remember thinking he's a good public official, so my heart goes out to his family. I share in Supervisor Sane's honoring of Dr. Jackson. I was actually in a meeting with him

[02:49:56] at the State Department when I worked at State, and also went on a visit for the Red Cross to princeville north carolina and i think they'd had some kind of a disaster and he was there and i met him again there um he's quite quite the american patriot in many many ways finally um i am leaving tomorrow morning early to drive to fort meade maryland my grandson is being inducted into the army national guard he has scored top marks and virtually everything he's been tested on, and I'm very proud of him. My granddaughter, his sister, is a state-ranked

[02:50:33] track star at Emory Henry College. Anyway, Wyatt has asked me to come up and swear him in in uniform, so I'll be wearing my Class A blouse for the first time in many years. I highly recommend no one sit in front of me when I have my Class A blouse on for fear of dying from flying buttons, either from Pride or from too many of these, which I love.

[02:50:57] But I will be trying to get into my Class A's tomorrow when I go up to Fort Mew, Maryland. Thank you. So my disclosures is I did speak to Tom Davis yesterday about the Cochrane Tech, and my staff spoke to applicants from the Aurora School and Cochrane Industrial Park.

[02:51:18] So a couple, some years back when my son was about seven years old, We were at the NAACP convention. We never missed a convention. We went to all the conventions. And we're leaving, and there's a rush of people leaving out the door at one time.

[02:51:34] And as happens with little kids, I lost his hand, and I lost him. And so for what felt like forever, it was probably less than 10 minutes, I am frantically looking forward to Sean Randall. I do not know where he's at. And I look over, and I see a Sean with a man who's standing there, and the Sean looks just as happy as he can be, and he's eating the cookie, and the man's talking to him and calming him down.

[02:51:55] And I go running over there, and the man who found my son and is holding him and give him a cookie is Jesse Jackson. And I was like, Reverend Jackson, thank you so much for finding and taking care of my child.

[02:52:13] I remember the first time I heard Reverend Jackson was at Manuel High School in Denver, Colorado, when he was the leader of Operation Push. And it was something for a young African American female, especially, to hear somebody say over and over again, to tell us to say, I am somebody, and to tell us why we're somebody, and to say to us, and don't let anyone ever make you feel any different.

[02:52:40] So when people have said negative things about me, have lied on me, I have no trouble when I say, I know who I am. I know who I am. And there are people that you don't know well that become part of that village of yours that says, I am somebody. Reverend Jackson was not a perfect person.

[02:52:57] He did and has said things that were troublesome. But I'd like to meet one person who walks through this earth as a perfect person. They just flat don't exist. But I think overall he did try to do good, and the balance of keep hope alive is important.

[02:53:17] There would not have been a Barack Obama were there not a Jesse Jackson. There would not have been a Kamala Harris were it not a Jesse Jackson. There would not have been a Susan Rice were it not a Jesse Jackson. I'm not even sure if it would have been a Colin Powell were it not for Jesse Jackson.

[02:53:32] So you take the foibles and the successes of a person and you add all those things up to decide what kind of person they were. And I think in the grand scheme, when all is said and done, Jesse Jackson is somebody who will go down in history, not as a perfect man, but as a man who tried to do right more often than not. And for me, a man who found my son. So that's also very important. So thank you. I think that is it. And for until we go to closed session, did I get it? Did we get everything? We did. We did. We did nominations. And I think I think we're good.

[02:54:11] All right. I think Mr. Turner is going to read us into closed session. I move the Board of Supervisors recess this public meeting and enter into closed session pursuant to section 2. 2-3711A7 of the Code of Virginia to consult with legal counsel and staff members or consultants pertaining to actual or probable litigation.

[02:54:41] Motion made second by Supervisors Sane. Discussion on the motion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 9-0. We are in closed session.

[03:28:52] Okay, we are back from closed session. Mr. Turner, will you read us out of closed session?

[03:51:38] I move that closed session be adjourned, that the Board of Supervisors reconvenes at public meetings, that the minutes of the public meeting should reflect that no formal action was taken in the closed session, and then further move that the resolution certifying the closed session be adopted and reflected in the minutes of this public meeting.

[03:52:00] Motions made by Supervisor Turner, seconded by Ms. Bricksman. All in the paper, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 9-0. Everybody please affirm. Affirm.

[03:52:17] And I affirm as well. I think that would be it. See you guys all on who's going. I'll see you all on Friday or Saturday at NACO. We are adjourned.

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