Coraggio Consulting Loudoun County Board of Supervisors, Budget Public Hearing (Session I), Thursday, February 26, 2026 Date: Thursday, February 26, 2026 Place: Board Room, First Floor, Government Center, 1 Harrison Street SE, Leesburg, Virginia Length: 47m (video) Official meeting video (county, Granicus): https://loudoun.granicus.com/player/clip/8126 Meeting page (Granicus): https://loudoun.granicus.com/player/clip/8126 Machine transcript (speech-to-text) produced by Coraggio Consulting. Not an official county record. Names and numbers may be misspelled; check the video at the timestamp before quoting. Speech-to-text: whisper.cpp, model large-v3-turbo. Produced 2026-10-10. Timestamps are [HH:MM:SS] into the meeting video. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [00:13:34] happening here turn me on please thank you hello thank you thank you thank you thank you okay well good evening supervisors good evening staffing good evening loud i'd like to call to order [00:14:07] the three o'clock february 26 2025 loudon county board supervisors public hearing about the budget this room has a hearing loop if you need hearing assistance please switch your hearing aid to the telecall mode if you need a headset we have those available as well please see the clerk to request [00:14:24] one. Would everyone please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? Before I read the script and talk about the public hearing today, I will say that I do have a Leadership Greater Washington commitment in D.C. I have to be in D.C. at 6 o'clock. So Mr. Turner is going [00:15:04] to conduct a 6 o'clock meeting. I have to also say I have no idea how I'm going to get to D.C. by 6 o'clock. But we're going to do, it'll be in Northwest D.C. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm going to do my best. So this public hearing is about the budget. It allows members of the public to address the board on the proposed budget for the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 2026 and ending June 30th, 2027, the FY 2027 proposed budget and proposed tax rates on real and personal property for the tax year beginning July 1st, 2026 and [00:15:43] ending December 31st, 2026. There are sessions for comment on the proposed budget by any member of the public may address the public, but only at one session. If you wish to speak on this public hearing, if you've not already done so for today, please sign up with the clerk to sign up. [00:16:06] If you are speaking, you will be allowed in two minutes. If you're in the boardroom, I'm going to ask when your name is called, please come to the podium closest to you. State your name for the record, if you'd like to state your district you're from, you can do that as well. The timer on the podium will indicate your remaining time. [00:16:22] When your time has expired, I will ask that you wrap up your comments and yield the floor to the next speaker. Per the board's rules of orders, when a member of the public is providing comments in a language other than English, we did decide this, I think it was two years ago, and chooses an interpreter, the member of the public and the interpreter will both have up to two minutes to address the board. [00:16:47] The way we do that, though, is we just put four minutes on the timer and they just go. That's how we do that. If you're providing your comments via phone, I'm going to ask you to use your own stopwatch your equipment because when you get to a minute, 30 seconds, I don't want to stop you and tell you like you have 30 seconds to go because it messes up your flow, but when you get to two minutes, I will stop you then. [00:17:10] So if you cannot see the clock in our boardroom, just be sure to set your own time so you can watch your own time. When taking public input, I will ask the people in the boardroom first wishing to speak and then I will go to the moderator and ask if there are any speakers online. [00:17:27] note that there's a slight delay between the broadcast and the boardroom. Although not all board members are able to attend, like I can't be here at 6. I will say that my colleagues and I will go back and watch the video recordings, the videotape of this public hearing before we start our budget deliberations. Especially at this 3 o'clock time, it's hard for some of my colleagues who work in D.C. to get there. But I have talked to them today. If somebody is not on this day as right now i have already spoke to them today and they have assured me that [00:18:01] they will go back and watch the um the public comments finally um andy can you hear me yes madam chair wonderful okay i'm going to call your names um two in advance so that you know you are next up to speak our first meeting our first meeting our first speaker is kristen langhorn followed by lisa max followed by joe meyer good evening good afternoon and thank you for this opportunity to speak. My name is Kirsten Langhorn, resident of Ashburn District, and I'm here to advocate for critical support services for our most vulnerable neighbors. I have been blessed [00:18:38] with many advantages in life, but my family has not escaped the desperate challenges too many of us do when a loved one's brain chemistry or body prevents them from keeping themselves sheltered and safe. If your worlds have been free from these challenges, please try to imagine a sibling or child being captured by a severe mental health disorder, traumatized by military service, or victimized in a violent relationship and is no longer able to sustain themselves. [00:19:02] Permanent Supportive Housing, PSH, is there for these neighbors when families can no longer keep their loved ones housed. Currently, our county provides a meager number of PSH units for our size and is dramatically underserving this vulnerable population. I have been told by some at the state level that Loudoun has repeatedly rejected entreaties to apply for additional state-funded PSH units. [00:19:22] I believe the reason for this can be found in a statement of explanation written last September by DFS staff when planning to terminate the program. I quote, the decision to close the PSH program was not made lightly. While the program was providing meaningful housing stability for participants, it has become increasingly difficult to sustain due to significant staffing limitations. [00:19:43] Just this week, the Continuum of Care learned that DFS has changed course and the few households currently receiving support, all of whom are chronically homeless and diagnosed with a disability are spared in this budget. However, there have been no increases to bolster the service provision. As staff diagnosed last summer, level funding for PSH is inadequate and your DFS team of care managers is woefully overextended. I'm asking you to learn from your leadership what their plans are for investing in their staff and ensuring we all work together to prevent our most vulnerable neighbors from becoming unsheltered once again. The COC and I have additional concerns. [00:20:19] chief amongst them are ongoing solutions for housing the hypothermia shelter safely housing families with minor children and the barriers to collaboration I believe are being erected by county staff I am I provide you a packet of information to further illuminate this and I will email everyone as well thank you Ms. Lincoln I actually know that you called my office I will reach out to you so you and I could meet sometime if not tomorrow then sometime over the weekend but we will get there before we get to this in the budget but we will sit down and have that meeting thank you for contacting my [00:20:50] office lisa max followed by joe meyer good afternoon good afternoon members of the board of supervisors i am lisa max ceo of the arc of loudon and chair of the loudon human services network i have the privilege of living and working in the ashburn district i am speaking today on behalf of the people we serve the most vulnerable among us about the proposed fiscal year 27 budget [00:21:18] We're grateful for the post 3% increase to the Human Services Nonprofit Program, which raises the total amount of available funds by $115,291.17. And we acknowledge the policy change that increases the maximum grant request from $113,000 to $135,000. [00:21:40] while we welcome the higher request amount we are concerned that this change could cause vital service applicants to lose funding as urgent as all of that is our concern about housing specifically housing insecurity homeless services and the number of transitional and permanent supportive housing options available in county the proposed budget does not include additional resources to expand these services or to add more beds accordingly we make the following requests that the board and staff share an analysis with lhsn that illustrates how the increased hsnp grant [00:22:18] request maximum may affect the total number of grantees funded in fiscal year 27 and if that analysis indicates that vital organizations may be defunded we ask for an increase to the total funding pool. Additionally, we urge the board to add funding in the fiscal year 27 budget for housing related services including more permanent supportive housing. Thank you for your thoughtful consideration and for your continued service. Together we are enabling our constituents to live, work, pray, play, and learn in Loudoun. Thank you. I need to just [00:22:54] understand what you just asked for. When you say additional funding, do you mean to LHSN specifically? additional funding to the program, to the human services non-profit program, if that maximum request might push others out. Okay, I understand. Thank you. Thank you. Joe Meyer, followed by Amanda Carwin. Good evening, sir. Afternoon, sir. Thank you, Madam Chair. My name is Joe Meyer. I'm the CEO for Shelter House, and I've been delivering services to people experiencing homelessness [00:23:29] over the past 25 years in Fairfax, Prince William, and Loudoun counties. We are seeing real progress here in Loudoun, but the data is clear that the need has grown faster than resources. An additional county investment is essential if we want to truly end homelessness here in Loudoun. [00:23:48] Since 2021, homelessness in Loudoun has increased dramatically. Family homelessness is up 143%. Households without children are up 258%. Resources have not kept pace with the level of growing need to hear in Loudoun. In 2025, Loudoun has had the highest rate of unsheltered chronically homeless single adults in the metropolitan region. 85% of the single homeless population in Loudoun are considered chronically homeless by HUD standards. These are individuals with significant barriers who need permanent supportive housing in order to stabilize. Yet, the county only has 14 permanent [00:24:24] supportive housing beds and just 10 are designated for singles. Since 2022, utilization across the system has increased sharply. Hypothermia shelter usage is up 83 percent, yet no resources have been added to the budget for hypothermia shelter. Drop-in services serving the homeless population is up 112 percent. These numbers reflect success and outreach, but again, funding and staffing have not been increased at the same rate to support this growth. Despite these pressures, Shelter House and the COC partners are making measurable dent. Shelter House has brought in significant external funding, including the Bezos Day One Family Fund, reducing reliance on county dollars. [00:25:04] First time ever in county history, zero families are on a wait list. The emergency shelter outcomes further show strong performance under current constraints. In FY25, 43% of single households and almost 70% of families exited to permanent housing. To build on the momentum and truly end homelessness in Loudoun County, we need, and we are requesting, a 5% increase to existing homeless service contracts and additionally we encourage the board to consider funding for permanent supportive housing. Mr. Meyer, thank you. If you want to send us your comments, you absolutely send them in. I appreciate your comments. [00:25:38] Thank you so much. Amanda Carwin followed by Kim Tapper. While Amanda is coming, Mr. Hemstreet, is it possible to get from the DHS staff or maybe from the COG staff what those heart numbers are? Because I hear percentages. I'd like to see those heart numbers. So is that possible? Yeah, we can provide the information we have. Okay thank you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you for the opportunity to share comments on the proposed budget. My name is Amanda Karin and I'm the Loudon Director for the Northern Virginia Affordable Housing Alliance. First of all I'd like to thank you for your commitment to addressing our housing affordability crisis. Since fiscal year 2023 the county has [00:26:17] dedicated 86 million dollars to attainable housing and plans to continue the dedication of a full penny of the real property tax to the housing fund. Thank you for that. But our work is not done. Despite this investment, renting or purchasing a home remains unaffordable and out of reach for too many Loudoun residents, impacting our county's economic growth, health, and competitiveness. This week, our alliance hosted conversations with our network here in Loudoun. [00:26:41] This is some of what they shared. Despite our county's investments in attainable housing, we are not on track to meet our housing goals. We need the financial resources and an actionable plan if we are going to meet our goals. Homelessness is increasing in Loudoun, and the proposed budget does not provide the resources to meet this need. Permanent Supportive Housing, or PSH, is a proven evidence-based solution to addressing homelessness, yet Loudoun remains woefully behind our other local jurisdictions in investing in PSH. We need to invest in programs, services, and support to bridge the gap to homeownership so that dream can become a reality for more of our neighbors. [00:27:14] Our residents deserve the dignity of a front door. Too many of our neighbors are living in basements or renting rooms in overcrowded houses because they can't find anything else they can afford. They want the dignity and security of closing their own front door at night, feeling comfortable and secure in the privacy of their own home. [00:27:31] Very recently, 86 families living here in Leesburg were displaced from their homes. This was a tight-knit community thriving in naturally occurring affordable housing. These families being forced from their homes was a tragedy, and it shouldn't have happened. But something beautiful that came out of that tragedy was an outpouring of care and support from faith leaders, businesses, nonprofits, local government, and residents of the greater Leesburg community. [00:27:53] This demonstrated to me how open our hearts are here in Loudoun, and that we understand that this needs to be a place where our neighbors can afford to live near jobs, transit, schools, and the neighborhoods they give back to every day. We have the knowledge, the political will, the community support, and the financial means here in Loudoun to make this a place where everyone has the dignity of a front door and a place to call home. [00:28:13] Thank you. Yeah, we have time, so thank you. I appreciate that. If you run short on time, absolutely, please email the board your comments. Good afternoon to Kim Tapper. You'll be followed by Kim Hart. That's timely. Good afternoon and thank you. [00:28:30] My name is Kim Tapper and I'm the executive director of A Place to Be and I serve on the executive committee of the Loud and Human Services Network. At A Place to Be, we support 250 clients per week through our clinical programs and we offer financial aid to them to qualifying families to make sure that therapeutic services are accessible at all times. [00:28:48] This year, we experienced an increase in both the number of financial aid requests and the dollar amount of each request, as families experience greater rates of job loss, loss of other support services, increased cost of living, and they fear additional losses due to changes in federally funded programs and the economy. [00:29:06] As a recipient of the Human Services Nonprofit Grant, we really appreciate your investment and the proposed 3% increase in funding. Those grants support our core operating costs. For us, that includes helping us hire and retain quality therapists to offer our services. And while we appreciate the maximum dollar request increase, we do wonder how it may affect the total number of nonprofits funded and if it will unintentionally decrease services to residents if fewer nonprofits receive support. [00:29:33] So I'd like to second the request for an analysis of the impact of that new ceiling. And then pending the results, we suggest to either increase the overall funding pool or reconsider that new maximum so that more eligible nonprofits receive funding and ultimately more residents are served. We are also so deeply grateful for the $5 million investment to the Community Foundation to address the increased service demands and federal policy impacts. [00:29:57] Those funds help a place to be, meet that financial aid increase, so we are grateful. But again, those are two separate pots. And as we all work to ensure that our most vulnerable neighbors have access to stable housing, particularly focused on increasing Loudon's permanent supportive housing, along with all the other critical support services. [00:30:14] We really hope that we can collaborate on a human services strategic plan between the nonprofits, the county, LCPS, and all the other constituents to address these increased needs together. Thank you so much for your partnership with the nonprofit community and serving Latin residents, and thank you for your leadership. [00:30:31] Thank you. Ms. Tapper, when does LHSN meet? All the time. Do you mean the full next meeting? um bi-monthly and the next one is in march march in march so we can get you that date can you do that for me absolutely thank you so much thank you um kimball hart followed by lakeisha mcdurphy sure good afternoon mr hart you know our emails i refer to her as kto kim the other kim hart i'm the manager director of good housing we build attainable housing for the past decade [00:31:10] It's been pretty much my job to show up and compare your budget to all of your neighbors so that I could embarrass you into putting more money into attainable housing. I'm glad that I'm here today to acknowledge that I don't have to do that any longer. As Madam Chair pointed out at the last budget, at the last business meeting, your budget when we started together in 2016 was zero, and it's now about $29 million. [00:31:36] So congratulations and thank you. But we're not done yet. Supervisor Turner pointed out that same meeting every year. We're falling short of our goal is the goal arbitrary and five years in it is time to reassess Yes, at our present rate of production I project that our 20 will miss our 2040 goal by 4,000 units more than 4,000 units and I gave you it I left you a chart to show where I graphed that The Unmanned Housing Needs Strategic Plan did do a good job of identifying the need. [00:32:13] All you have to do is listen to the others testifying today, Shaw's, Shelter House, Crossroads Jobs, ARC. We're just way short. It is time to reassess. The current plan does not tell us if we have enough land to meet our goal. It does not tell us if our zoning ordinance is written properly to meet our goal. [00:32:31] It does not. And I can tell you that we're still a little short of the money needed to meet the goal. As Supervisor Bridgman pointed out at the last meeting, you just spent $26 million to support 378 units, but if you're going to hit your goal of 500 units in the next year, it would take $35 million, not $29 million. [00:32:49] So here's my ask. Please earmark a couple hundred thousand dollars so that we can revisit the strategic plan, and please instruct DHCD to refresh that strategic plan. Supervisor Lucy, don't just move the goalposts. Thank you. [00:33:07] Thank you. Thank you. All right. Lakeisha McDurphy, fellow part, Theos Damatis. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the Board of Supervisors and County Administrator. [00:33:24] My name is Lakeisha Gore McDurphy. I serve as the chair of the Loudoun County Commission on Aging, and standing with me is our Vice Chair, Nancy Nicholson, who represents the Catoctin District. Our fellow commissioners, who proudly represent each one of your districts, respectfully ask that the board keep in consideration the county's fastest growing population, older adults. [00:33:46] We are here today to ask for special consideration and annual funding when it comes to the aging residents for their needs, their accommodations, and their quality of life should be important as for the annual budget deliberations. [00:34:04] And according to a demographic study, Loudoun County has 44,000 residents aged 65 and older. And that number is projected to double in the coming decades. So we are recommending five areas of focus. One, an annual review of the county strategic plan through an aging lens. [00:34:25] An annual allocated funding dedicated to aging initiatives. Housing set-aside considerations. continued focus on tax relief and transportation, and sustained funding support for the PRCS Area Agency on Aging, which includes adult day centers, senior trips, and community programming. [00:34:47] This request is not simply about programming. It's about combating isolation, preventing older residents from leaving the county that they help build. So our senior centers are full. The adult day centers have wait lists there are additional requests for home delivered meals and the senior trips are filling quickly older adults are volunteering mentoring serving on board supporting families and remain a vital asset and resource to our community so I'll close by saying this [00:35:19] aging is one club that we should all be lucky to join the the goal is not to just age not not to just add years to age, but life to those years. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you both very much. Theos Tomates, followed by Kuhapuride. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the board. For the record, Theos Tomates, Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce. [00:35:55] Tonight, I want to speak to you all on the critical role that housing investment plays in Loudoun's economic health and to urge this board to protect funding that keeps families from falling into crisis. First, I want to express the chamber's sincere appreciation for the board's continued investment in the Loudoun Housing Trust Fund. That commitment reflects genuine leadership and it signals to employers, workers, families that Loudoun County understands housing stability is an economic imperative, not just a social one. The chamber's 2026 legislative agenda makes it clear that attainable housing from workforce rentals to home ownership programs to permanent [00:36:32] supportive housing is foundational to our ability to attract and retain the workforce our businesses depend on. We cannot build a thriving economy in our community where working families cannot afford to live, or worse, where they have nowhere to live at all. That's why I would like to raise serious concerns about, particularly compared to other Northern Virginia jurisdictions, Loudoun has fewer permanent supportive housing beds per capita. Designed for our neighbors experiencing chronic homelessness and disabling conditions, permanent supportive housing plays a critical role in [00:37:08] addressing our community's housing needs, especially for those more at risk from homelessness. The chamber urges this board to thoughtfully consider enhancing support for permanent supportive housing beds in our community while we understand the considerable cost and complexities involved with providing PSH beds. [00:37:27] These investments also mitigate even greater downstream costs, including emergency services, shelter placements, and loss of workforce productivity. Thank you, Madam Chair and this board for your existing work to address the needs for our most vulnerable citizens in our county and for considering the chamber's perspective. [00:37:46] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Stamatis, and thank everybody in the chamber for us, please. If you pronounce your name for me, I would appreciate it. I'm sorry if I mispronounce your name. You'll be followed by James Smith and Thomas Price. Good afternoon, Madam Chair and members of the board. [00:38:02] My name is Kumkum Kunaparede, so it's all right. It is a hard name to get. I serve as a secretary on the board of directors for Shelter House, but I'm not here just in an official capacity. Loudoun has been my home for a lot of years. [00:38:17] My friends are here, family, neighbors. A lot of them are listening in and also in the room here today. I'm not going to repeat the statistics that you've heard from our CEO today. I trust you've heard them. What I want to say is something much more simpler. We all know someone currently going through a crisis right now, losing everything that they have. [00:38:35] I know we do. A neighbor who just got a federal layoff notice, a family member whose hours got cut, or someone who's quietly falling behind in rent but too proud to say it out loud. We are all living in a moment of economic and financial crisis and anxiety, Loudoun County for all its strength is not immune to it. This county has been a place of opportunity and stability for so long. People have come here to build their lives precisely because of that promise as my mom who's sitting in the audience today and now when that promise is under pressure when people are scared and vulnerable the question is will Loudoun show up for its residents the way [00:39:12] its residents have always shown up for this community. A flat budget is not a neutral decision When the need is growing at the rate our CEO has described, a flat budget is actually a cut. It is destabilizing. People will fall through the gap, and once someone falls through, it will cause much more in human suffering and in public resources to bring them back up again. [00:39:36] We are asking for 5%, 5% to match what the need demands, 5% to keep the programs working, and we're asking this board to take seriously consideration of expansion of permanent supportive housing because without a place to land, people cycle through the crisis indefinitely. [00:39:55] Loudoun County has the resources and reputation to lead on this. Shelter house is not the finish line. Crisis management is not the finish line. Long-term stability and housing should be the finish line. Hence, permanent housing needs should not be decreased, but increased due to over 100-- - Ma'am, yeah, your time is up. [00:40:13] So, just like I said before, I will reach out to the shelter house and anyone, any one supervisor wants to join me because I'm not quite sure, I am sure what you all are saying. I'm not quite sure when you say 5% if that means 5% of your current budget, 5% of the county's budget, 5% of, so I just need to have more clarity about what the ask is. [00:40:37] So, before we get there, I would reach out to you all and even if it's a virtual meeting, I'll make sure we have a meeting before that time. Sure, thank you. - Thank you so much. James Smith, and then the last speaker for the day would be Thomas Price. If anyone else would like to speak, here's the time to go on and sign up. [00:40:52] Good evening, sir. - Good afternoon to everybody. Thank you for allowing me to speak with you today. My name is Dr. James Smith. I'm a resident of Loudoun County and living in Sterling. I've been here since May of 2023. I've been a psychiatrist and a public health advocate for over 40 years. [00:41:11] As a member of the board of directors of Shelter House, also the Board of Directors of Health Service Agency in Northern Virginia, and a board member of the Epsilon Zeta Foundation that gives the shelter here in Loudoun $10,000 a year. [00:41:28] I seek your support in helping increase that funding. As you've heard, we are asking for an increase to help us maintain our services and to grow our services. I thank you for your ongoing support, but we can do more to achieve our goal. [00:41:47] I think in putting these resources, addressing permanent supporting housing, makes this community a much better community, but it is still a great community. Loudoun County is the healthiest county in the state of Virginia, and it's something very much to be proud of. [00:42:04] I believe that we can do a lot more as we grow, and I'm proud to be a resident of Loudoun County and the city of Sterling, and I thank you for your attention, and I hope you can visit us and learn more about us. - Thank you, thank you so much, Mr. Smith. [00:42:20] And the last speaker is Thomas Price. Good evening, sir, afternoon, sir. - Okay, good afternoon, board. First, I'd like to say thank you for allowing me to speak here. My name is Thomas Price. [00:42:36] I've been a resident of Loudoun County for over 20 years. I moved here knowing that Loudoun County is a safe community. My two children have gone to the Loudoun County Public School System from elementary school through high school and now in college, and I'd like to say that it was a safe environment and it was a great academic program. [00:42:59] I'd like to do is give praise to our Loudoun County Sheriff's Department for their one-foot job and effort in keeping us safe. However, I'm here to ask you to vote no on the proposal for putting SRO officers in every elementary school. [00:43:15] This is a costly and unnecessary proposal. If we would be better served if we were to take those funds and increase the spending and funds for youth mental health programs and counseling services. [00:43:33] I mean more than just meeting with the parents and a student and writing a report. With working families struggling, making a living, working two jobs and long hours, our children are isolated, disillusioned, disconnected, and vulnerable to exploitation and recruitment into criminal elements. [00:44:00] Programs like scouting, sports, and community programs that my wife and I have supported over our time here in Loudoun County has been well spent. I work with many youth, and they have a positive trajectory. [00:44:15] A year ago, my daughter was here at the board for recognition for Eagle Scout. We build good characters and citizens, and like I said, vote no. We do not need more SROs. We need more services for our youth. [00:44:32] Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. We do have one speaker who is with us on the remote speaker, Mitchell Crispell. If you can hear us, we're ready when you are. Yes, can you hear me? We can hear you, sir. [00:44:48] Thank you. Hi, it's Mitch Crispell. I'm a director of real estate development here at True Ground Housing Partners. We have projects in Sterling, and we're under construction on another project in South Riding, and hoping I'm going to close on a third project right next to that one this fall. [00:45:04] So we're so grateful for the county's investment in all three of these. You know, we just couldn't do it without that investment. And when I meet with residents, they tell me about how having an affordable place to live in true ground properties means they don't have to worry, they have stability, they can plan for the future. It just creates relief for them. And that's what we're creating together for folks in Loudoun. So we thank you for that. And want to congratulate you on all of the investments in the affordable housing loan program. I'm here, another speaker talking about housing. But I just want to echo the previous speakers and encourage more funding for affordable housing programs in the fiscal year 27 budget. The proposed budget is a great start. It includes dedicated tax revenue [00:45:43] for these programs but a lot more is needed the washington metropolitan council of government has identified the need for tens of thousands of additional homes allowed and to keep up with job growth so we want to just really encourage additional funding because this program is really working to create more housing in the county and then two other ideas for investment are more funding for permanent supportive housing programs as several other speakers have spoken about already and then also i and i think the county is pursuing this but identifying publicly owned land in good neighborhoods that could be, you know, surplus and use sort of affordable housing. One of our biggest challenges besides the money part is finding land that we can [00:46:22] use to create affordable housing. So I want to encourage, you know, investments in rental development, PSH, and then publicly owned land. And thank you so much for the time. Thank you, sir. And do we have any more speakers that have bought anything else that they want Okay, most of the people on the days will be back at 6 o'clock. [00:46:45] With the shelter house people just hang out just for a second so I can come down and find some times, look at my schedule and find some times for us to sit down and talk. With that, supervisors, we are adjourned for this session. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Coraggio Consulting ยท aguyonx.com